The cat is out of the bag on the much hyped abduction of the daughter of a Kerala based CPI-M MLA from a bus near Mangalore.
The Times Now makes this stunning disclosure that the accused were no un-Hindu hoodlums but instead they were members of the DYFI, the CPI-Mafioso’s student wing.
Two days after the attack on CPM MLA’s daughter and her friend, the accused claim to be a part of CPM’s student wing-the DYFI. More shockingly, these men say that their attempt was to protect the MLA’s daughter’s modesty. While police refused to share details,the arrested claim they belong to CPM’s student wing – the DYFI. On asked as to which party they belonged, the driver of the bus the couple was travelling in – Arvind Das said, “DYFI.” Surprisingly, the accused claim they were keeping the MLA’s daughter out of harm’s way. “They were oly trying to protect the girl’s modesty from being compromised,” defence lawyer told TIMES NOW.
This disclosure raises an interesting question if the whole episode was at the behest of the CPI-Mafioso father who perhaps may have shifted the blame once the story was grabbed the national media.
Be that as it may, this episode once again exposes the Talibanised closed mindset of the 24×7 national media which no longer cares about approaching news with an open mind.
Even before the police investigation was completed and the facts of the case were established, the media was quick to ascribe blame to saffron outfits.
Five persons, including the driverand the conductor of the bus from which the daughter of a CPI(M) MLA was dragged out and kidnapped, were arrested yesterday and two others are being questioned by police in connection with the incident, which evoked sharp protests across the country.
The alacrity with which the 24×7 media has conducted itself on events in Mangalore exposes its real intentions that this was never about unbiased reportage of facts but was really about tarnishing the reputation of the BJP Government in Karnataka in the minds of the cosmopolitan urban middle class voter in the run up to the general elections.
This is not the first time we have seen the media conduct itself in this despicable fashion. The media’s shameful and biased campaign ahead of the Gujarat elections is well documented as was the media’s surreptitious attempt at influencing the Karnataka elections through exit polls that were far from credible.
If Malegaon highlighted the flawed morality of the 24×7 media in its attempt to draw equivalences, Mangalore has exposed the media’s real agenda.
Now that the 24×7 media has been caught with its pants down can we expect
#1 Renuka Choudary to shut up and spare us her moral sanctimony.
#2 CPI-Mafioso to explain what its student wing was doing “saving” the MLA’s daughter to come clean on the real story of the “abduction”
#3 National media to tender an unqualified apology to the rest of us for their false reportage
With preconcieved notions and deeply held prejudices coloring reportage on events in Mangalore it perhaps would be in order to demand of the media to show sufficient cause for why it should not be subject to a code of conduct to check this disturbing trend of “Talibanization”.
Filed under: CNN-IBN Boycott, Gujarat Polls 2007, Karnataka Polls 2008, Lok Sabha Polls 2008-2009, betrayal of aam admi
Cant Ram sena guyz find a lawyer to file a libel suit against Media houses that spread the slander and caused it so much pain ?. These are the kinds of things one should’nt waste time on in this cut throat world waiting to jump on you and eliminate you.
Yoss – thanks for this. As you rightly pointed, national media owes an apology to the general public on this one (apart from hundreds of other issues). I just hope the awarness of the double-face of medica reaches a critical point and tables are turned against the prejudiced media. Hundreds killed in Nandigram were reported as a insignicifant news, where as mangalore grabbed headlines for several days… People homes have been evicted, women raped and killed in nandigram, whereas some hooligans dragging girls ouf of a pub made headlines for more than a week and still contiune to make headlines. any right minded person can see the farce. Does media think people being killed, raped and evicted from their homes is less significant than some hooligans dragging girls out of a pub. I remember some new year bash where two girls were grabbed in wrong places made the first page news for a few days. Acid throwing taliban in kashmir is reported in a small paragraph in page 12. Thank you media for enligtening us about the ways of the world.
Read economic times 3rd page today
” this is in small print, Muthalik says we are framed and mor imprtantly, he says they are not going to stop the valentines day and they are starting a helpline for women against teasing. :
now this is in very small print
The Congress, the Communists, the real talibanised pimps of Jahadis and evangelists called the MSM are out to malign and dstroy hindus and hinduism. The Main Stream Media is on the pay of anti-hindu anti-India forces. It is time hindus show these pigs their proper place. I am really surprised how the so called hindus working in these media houses can pimp for anti-hindus throwing to winds all ethics. MSM are surely not going to apologise. They will continue with their rhetoric, for they believe in the Goebbels school of propaganda.
CPI(M) is the most dangerous party in India. It is more capitalist than any other capitalists. They have got more assets than any other capitalist. In their own citadel three school girls were subjected to sexual harassment and these very goons tried to protect the perpetrators.
The Lavlin case is going to put the last nail on this anti-national party. Every one from top to bottom are involved and all of them are trying to scuttle a proper probe and prosecution, the only exception being the Chief Minister. You can see the true colours of Karat and Co., if you go through the daily revelations. These goons are trying their level best to divert the media attention from this case and perhaps, the abduction episode may be one. In the citadels of CPI(M) West Bengal the only industry is import illegal Bangldeshis and export to other parts of India and in Kerala manufacture and export of terrorists. See the nine terrorists captured in connection with Bangalore blasts are from Kerala. The Congress and Communits should be squarely blamed for the same.
It is time hindus knew their real enemies.
Ideologically speaking, sections of the Indian media have always been close to the Taliban. Eight years ago, when Taliban were destroying the Bamiyan Buddhas, newscasters and columnists were lining up to “explain” their act. It had nothing to do with Islamic iconoclasm, they contended, it all had to do with their protest against Western imperialism. This was before 9/11, so the justifications of Taliban came thick and fast.
Truly the 24X7 media is caught pants down.
Do you think IBN, NDTV are going to apologize ? If they do its would be a miracle. Apology is some thing that is demanded all the time and never tendered to others by these secular scumbags.
Our media is constantly bombarding us with the news of “abducted MLA’s daughter” as though this news would lead to a war!!!
They [Media] have forgot to inform us about
1) Indo-Pak diplomatic war
2) CEC recommendations
3) Upcoming LS polls
4) Larger issues in India – economic mismanagement, corruption et al.
I’ve skipped NDTV and CNN-IBN in my home TV and planning to do the same with Times Now. I guess my BP will stabilise after I stop watching these channels
Oooh now someone’s thrilled.
The arrested ‘said’ they were DYFI. They could have said they were sent by Yossarin, and you would believe it rightaway?
The fact is – people on this blog have often defended the agenda of those in Mangalore who dislike Hindu girls talking to Muslim boys. I think KVS himself has said that before, that these boys are Muslim jihadi romeos.
Secondly, the trend of threatening college girls who talk to Muslim boys has been going on in Mangalore for a couple of years now.
Most likely, this is another such attempt which went wrong when they realised the girl is an MLA’s daughter.
While it is certainly possible that this was the handiwork of DYFI guys, chances are it is not.
You just have to ask people from Mangalore, they would agree that this goes on in Mangalore – and some right wing group is always responsible, whatvere they call themselves. And most would not say its a bad thing.
@ vijay
Muthalik has said very clearly, on TV, that his people would marry off anyone found celebrating Valentine’s Day. Not that they can do much other than trying to beat some boys and girls. But the man said it. Bajrang Dal has said it before. Shiv Sena has said it before. The only difference is, the ld men in RSS who say the same thing are too old to beat up anyone, and do not usually try to grab a grope or two while defending indian culture.
CNN-IBN in its prime time report did mention quietly that the girl had been let off, but the headlines were screaming “Ram sena kidnaps girl”, with no mention about
1) How could it proved that it was indeed Ram Sena
2) That the girl had been “released” after 15-20 minutes.
I do not know if any of the channels have apologised or even admitted their error.
Commenting on the incident, Union Minister for Women and Child Development, Renuka Chowdhury said, “There is breakdown of law and order in Karnataka and I think we should look at it as a national security problem.”
National security? Is she on grass or something?
And if they actually took national security as seriously…
Similar news has been reported in various Malayalam newspapers today.
reports that Aravindan, a bus employee who was arrested, is a leader of the CITU motor workers wing. They also report that the bus conductor Sathish (who is also under arrest), is a communist party worker.
Mathrubhumi today (Feb
If you know Malayalam, you can read it here
Ramu, these are not the words of arrested people. These arrested guys are local leaders of CITU and DYFI and well known to local people. Local reporters of Malayalam news papers can easily identify them. And Malayalam newspapers report it as a fact and not quoting anybody.
CNN-IBN and other 24×7 media concentrates on how to blame BJP in either way. Don’t think about apologies from them.
More interesting details emerge
The bus conductor was the guy will have to be immediately arrested and questioned, said the MLA. This was confirmed by one of the CPM members in Mangalore who said I was in the same bus as the girls were and the bus conductor who was always on the mobile from Manjeshwar to Kotekar was making frantic calls and telling in Tulu “Itte Balla” (come now).
Remember: as Malayalam newspapers report today, the bus conductor is a CITU person (see above comment no. 11). He seems to have informed others about this girl+guy asking them to “come now” !
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While it is certainly possible that this was the handiwork of DYFI guys, chances are it is not.
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There is a saying in Tamil, which when literally translated into English conveys “The world is not dark just because the cat has closed its eyes”.
so dear Now if any girl is kidnap,molested,rapped,killed…we know Who the culprit is…..
Off course NOT secular MUSLIM/CHRISTAIN/LEFT-CENTRE people But Communal HINDU Rightwing people
Hello Comrade Ramu,
>>While it is certainly possible that this was the handiwork of DYFI guys, chances are it is not.
You should be outraged, dear friend. I saw your outrage last time and I was impressed.
This time too you seem outraged alright, but you seem outraged that they are blaming the commies.
A bit of a ROFL kind of situation you know.
@ Ot
Commies have also used the excuse of Indian culture to do similar stuff in the past.
The questions I have are, and would like the response of Yossarin are:
1) Is it against Indian culture if women go to pubs?
2) Is it against Indian culture if they wear sexy clothes?
3) Is it OK for hindu girls to talk to muslim boys, and vice versa?
4) If someone does stuff which is against Indian culture, what is the appropriate response?
5) Is the only difference between the Rama Sene and BJP that while one believes in using force, while the other doesn’t – so methodology, not the idea is the problem?
I am asking these questions because these are issues of personal freedom for me, and anyone who goes against my personal freedom is my enemy.
I have been anti – communists for a long time precisely because they do not believe in giving me my personal freedom.
I have the same questions about the BJP. It seems from the statements of all politicians that most of them, irrespective of party, are for curtailing my personal freedom – some use words, some use force.
I am a pub-goer, I talk to people from all religions and castes, and I actively campaign for voting against any party candidate who supports such ideas. Mind you, ideas, not action. Even telling me what is Indian culture is an offence in my scheme of things.
I am a pub-goer, I am not offended by what women wear or do or who they talk to. Those who are offended – they are my enemy irrespective of party or religion.
What I know is that the new generation believes in personal freedom too – and their votes are going to count more and more like in Delhi state elections. They never used to vote, but I think they are beginning to. Hopefully for the sake of their freedom to do what they want as long as they are not breaking any laws.
I am running online campaigns to tell youngsters that anyone who even tries to control their freedom is an enemy – and its working. Therefore, they should analyse every candidate through that prism, and ask them to make their stand clear. The moment they tell you something is against this culture or that – screw them in every way you can.
BJP I think wants to play both sides – we are the party that looks ahead, and we are also the party that wants the male-dominated status quo. If an occasional couple is beaten, thats just collateral damage.
There is a conflict between middle-upper class mentality, and the mentality of the poor. The poor feel inconsequential, and try to do stuff like this to recover some importance. In that comflict, I am certainly on the side of more and more freedom.
I am not sure where Yosarin and the rest of the commenters here are, as there are several who have said such things happen, and talking to Muslims invites trouble.
The BJP deserves this. They should never have left themselves open to suspicion. That is why commies are now trying to frame them.
It surprises me , that, how come saffron outfits behave so stupidly in these matters. They should be sensible.
Already in Orissa(The name is odisha now), they are sufferinf very badly in all polls. The CMC elections in cuttack, they have got 2 wards out of 54 wards. They had 16 last time.
BJP should understand, that, the media is out to bait them. These so-called fringe outfits need to cool down. They are only harming their own cause.
They way, the media is harping on Ram sene, it sounds like another campaign to create another MNS. If you remember, CNN-IBN started the MNS campaign. Now, Muthalik has become a National celebrity.
Comrade Ramu,
I see that you are desperate to divert attention from the theme of this blog post. DYFI’s role ought to scorch commies’ ass, but why are you — a guy after my own heart — feeling like a thief that has been caught?
I’m reminded of Reverend John Dayal. The chap is a Catholic, but not Goan, as far as I can tell. Wangled some position on some government body — National Integration Council or some suhc thing — courtesy Sonia “Gandhi”. Of course, he’s not a commie, though he collaborates with commies, like many catholics do.
Back in the late 90′s, there was a spate of attacks on churches in South India. Dayal was outraged till he was sweating rivers on NDTV. At the same time, a young Christian couple were murdered in Orissa, and a nun claimed she was gangraped in a moving car. Dayal was outraged beyond control. He went knocking at Supreme Court’s doors. NDTV showed it all. John Dayal at the gates of the Supreme Court. My friend Comrade Beijing — he of the “terrorism is not an issue” fame — would tell you that his favorite newspaper — the farmer suicide paper — was also outraged.
It so turned out later that churches were bombed by a Muslim outfit pretending to be Hindu one; that the Christian couple were murdered by their own relation, that the nun was bluffing to hire the fact that she had an affair going.
Dayal first refused to accept it all, and then ceased being outraged!! NDTV stopped showing him knocking at Supreme Court gates!
Well, Comrade Ramu, I don’t think you’re a catholic and I don’t think you’re a commie, you’re a god-fearing Hindu, but you sure seem to be a lot like Reverend Dayal to me.
Where’s Beijing, by the way? When is he gonna make an appearance? I wanted to discuss with him if rape by commies is an issue since farmer suicides are happening.
More details:
Aravind Das, 30, and Satish, 30, driver and bus conductor in a private bus, who were familiar with Shabeeb and Shruthi travelling in the bus, had tipped off Raju alias Rajesh,32 , working as a time keeper.
Raju teamed up with a mechanic Ranjith and conductor Satish to abduct Shruthi and Shabeeb from Mahaveer Circle. Raju pushed Shabeeb, studying in a computer institute, and Shruthi into a running autorickshaw.
Note that Satish and Arvind are communist party men
Such simplistic analysis.
Anyone who says something that alligns with your political/religious beliefs……has spoken the irrefutable truth, has let the cat out of the bag ( and various other hyperboles)….no proof necessary, the person’s atecedents irrelevant.
Conversely too..if anyone says something that does not allign with your political/religious beliefs…..he is a antinational, out to destroy the nation, conspiring against your party/religion……again no proof necessary, no other analysis pertinent !!
If Renuka Chowdary’s history is anything to go by, she is one hell of a lady goonda to say the least.
There is the famous case of her assault on traffic constable
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1016522.cms
Raiding and gheraoing a police station with goondas [telugu link]
http://www.andhrajyothy.com/mainshow.asp?qry=/2006/nov/15main38
And there was the famous incident when a police sub-inspector tried to stop her from breaking a police barricade and she bit his had. Poor fellow had to be taken to hospital.
But then, that history is what brought her here today.
Sanatana Dharma despite the faults that emerge when something fossilises over time,though happily it has reemerged over the last century and half.
@ Ot
I dont get the connection. About DYFI, I know what they are. Commies may talk personal freedom when convenient, but actually they are lying.
Now whats BJP’s, and Yossarin’s stand?
Look, I very much agree that the English media is virulently anti-BJP and blames the BJP for just about everything. Thing is, the perception of a large number of undecided urban middle class voters is influenced by the media to a great extent. In this scenario, it is neccessary for the BJP leaders not to provide any ammunition to the media- when you have Yeddy saying we will not allow pub culture or V.S Acharya making some equally nonsensical statement, it only provides more ammo to the media. As people sympathetic to the BJP, we may know that there is a difference in the positions between BJP and Sri rama Sena, we will also know that Yeddy also said such attacks are not acceptable and strict action will be taken, but for a ordinary layman reading a newspaper/ wtaching a news chanell, the impression would have already been made and the CON(gress) media’s job is done.
So until the BJP gets a sufficient foothold in the English media, its leaders should avoid getting foot-in the mouth disease, not make any unneccessary statements, and try to dissociate themselves as much as possible from hooligan elements like Sri Rama Sene. Don’t send people to debate shows on news channells on issues like Mangalore- the media will provoke and some BJP leader will fall into the trap, then the media will spin it- and slowly but steadily, the media will achieve its task of tarnishing the reputation of the BJP among the urban elite and middle class.
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http://www.rediff.com/news/2009/feb/07beng-bangalore-serial-blasts-case-cracked.htm
Congratulations to all Bharatvaasi and Anti Terrorist Cell (ATC) for solving the Bangalore case. Nine terrorists have been arrested. Hey you, Anti-Hindu media, do I hear the word “Muslim terrorists”, “Islamic terrorism”? Do I see an image with 786 or Quran on it? F***ing Anti-Hindu nonsecular communal bigots.
While everyone trying to blame “law and order” in Karnataka over the hyped mangalore incidents, there have been much more serious incidents happening in southern kerala, a few hundred kilometers away from Mangalore.
In the communist bastion, alappuzha, three school girls were raped and their naked pictures/video were taken. Using these videos/pics the girls were blackmailed, leading to their death. No details available in NDTV or CNN IBN. Times of India gives some details. See the following links
Link 1
Link 2
Such incidents are very common in Kerala. Ministers from the congress’ UDF and CPM’s LDF are accused for their involvement in various sex scandals.
Kiliroor sex scandal: court wants CPM leaders booked
A google search on “Kunhalikkutty Ice cream parlour” will give you enough details on the accusation against the Muslim league leader and former UDF minister Kunhalikkutty on his involvement in the icecream parlour sex scandal.
Law and order… BJP.. did anyone say anything ?!
Comrade Ramu,
The question is about the talibanization of media, friend. Are sections of the English media are essentially pals of the Taliban, in ideology if not in action? Are they running the agenda of commies and Islamists? Is that why they did not run a campaign, for example, against the recent ban by UP madrasa board on co-education schools? Or CPIM party workers’ attempt to molest their own party women? Or the rapes in Nandigram?
More importantly: do Islamists/communists quote outfits like NDTV and The Hindu religiously, and insist that they must be accepted as truth, precisely because they see their mirror images in these outfits?
I THINK THE MINISTER RENUKA CHOWDHURY, CNN-IBN, NDTV AND ALL TV AND PRINT MEDIA SHOULD BE SUED AND MADE TO APOLOGISE FOR CREATING WRONG HYPE AND AS A PUNISHMENT SUSPENDED. MINISTER IS TALKING ABOUT LAW AND ORDER SECURITY ISSUES IN KARNATAKA. WHAT HAPPENED TILL TODAY NOTHIONG FOR 26/11 MUMBAI TERROR ATTACK. THE TWICE CONVICTED AFZAL GURU BY HIGHEST AUTHORITY IN THE COUNTRY BY SUPREME COURT STILL VERDICT NOT IMPLEMENTED. WOMENS EMANICIPATION EQUAL RIGHTS ETC BEING SKHOUTED ON ALL AVAILABLE CHANNELS. BUT 33% RESERVATION IN COLD STORAGE FOR LAST FIVE YEARS, WHY 33%, WHY NOT 50% .PROHIBITION YET TO BE IMPLEMENTED STILL EVEN AFTER 60 YEARS ,NOT EVEN IN ONE CONGRESS STATE THOUGH CONGRESS HAS BEEN RULING FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS. IT IS A SHAME.
RAJAGOPALAN
DYFI claims responsibilty for ‘abducting’ MLA’s daughter
The assault on the daughter of an MLA and her friend at Mangalore has taken a new turn with the Democratic Youth Federation of India claiming responsibility behind the incident
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The DYFI while claiming responsibility for the attack also said that they were only trying to protect the modesty of the girl.
Yossarin: Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I have added this to my great joke that is Indian media series.
Its safe now to addreess comrade ramu as ramu the “pub-goer” ..hahahaha.He is so out of his place and it looks like he is the enemy of everyone who refuse to go to pub with him. May be you are not only a pub-goer but also a pub-owner ??? A reckless creature trying to defend unscrupulous social behavior with some eccentric definitions of personal freedom. This is exactly what our media is doing….giving jaundiced, out right stupid definitions of things and calling it freedom of press.
@Ram Jan
No I don’t own a pub, sadly.
However, every single friend of mine, all the pro-RSS, pro-BJP friends, come with me to the pubs. Same for my commie friends too. And there are many women too.
For us, pubs, clothes, language, religion are things which are entirely our business – and every group which says this is right or that is right is our enemy.
I dont think my definition of personal freedom is eccentric. I dont think Yossarin thinks so either.
I know people who have decided finally to stay away from BJP because – wherever BJP is in power – someone or the other comes up with stunts like this – beating up people, no valentine’s day, whatever. One friend, who was a strong advocate for the Ram temple, says that while he is for the Ram temple, he would never vote for anyone who impinges into his freedom.
Of course, BJP is not alone in curtailing our freedoms officially through words and unofficially through goondas. Congressmen and commies too are here to make me go back to some dreamland of women who hide behind doors in the name of Indian culture.
Look ahead, give the young people what they want, and get their votes. But what can parties full of senile old men do?
(I hope everyone saw the oldies snoring while Rajnath promised Ram temple!)
Dear Ram Jan,
Please do not get into personal attack. Even though you may not like Ramu’s opinion, this is not the way to air them. If you read Ramu’s sentences carefully, you should have noticed that he is talking about non-encroachment of personal freedom.
Likewise I believe it is bad for anyone (both men and women) to go to pubs and waste their time and energy. However these opinions are mine and I should not enforce on someone who really wants to go to pub. At the most, i should run an information awareness campaign (like Hindu Jagruti does most of the times, without resorting to any violence).
Similarly in a debate, opinions may vary, but this should not mean that we take to name calling.
regards,
RV
newsx is coming up as a mature and unbiased English News Channel…….think it should be quoted/promoted to increase its influence…..
All other English Media channels are blatantly Anti-BJP for reasons known to everybody.
one thing is clear as daylight to me… on this blog, you don’t raise questions, or risk being called a ‘comrade’. with us or against us, shall we say?
while the blogger is overeager to rush to the defence of the fanatical saffron outfit, i have seen he is equally eager to brush their established acts of guilt under the carpet, saying that a small incident was being blown out of proportion, and similar transgressions by other outfits were not as widely reported. Well, that might be the case, but do tell me, do two wrongs make a right?
I would like to know the opinions of the blogger and the avid commentators who are quick to brand dissidents as commies, mislead sheep, traitors, whatever…. where do you stand on individual liberty? and do you or do you not, oppose the acts of aggression upon individual liberties? Yes or no would suffice for the second question i guess.
And if someone feels i am a ‘comrade’ because i dare question the majority opinion around here… well please go ahead and be my guest. The constitution of india guarantees freedom of expression and liberty of of thought, expression, belief, faith and
worship. anyone who tries to subvert these is my enemy, is an enemy of the idea that is india. please clarify where you stand vis-a-vis individual liberties, and do indulge in reasoned debate and not name-calling.
Anand – it wud be sad day if the freedom to question challenge or criticize are stifled on this blog. Challenge by all means, all criticism is welcome. As far as your questions go this blog’s stance has been consistent and clear – uphold the rule of law as if it were dharma. Make an example of those who dare to break the rule of law so there is a high social and personal cost to them.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/one-family-has-ruined-everything-in-india-modi/420752/
Modi nails it again. I’m laughing my head off reading how he has turned the Obama argument on its head.
And the argument actually is quite valid. Americans were fed with a two family rule. ‘More of the same’ was a very relevant (and central) campaign theme. Yes we Can….yes we can (affect change). That was the complete sentence.
Modi is the complete leader/politician if India ever had one.
WOW……
BTW, NaMo has also shown us the way in which to counter the National media’s bias. Sadly most BJP commentators dont seem to know how to turn the tables on these so called journalists.
Watch on youtube how Modi rips Rajdeep Sardesai a new one during the Q&A at the HT conference.
It is during these times (and only these times) that I miss someone like Pramod Mahajan. He was a crook, but he knew how to put these guys in their place.
So does Modi.
Hello comrade Dhimmi,
>>I dont give a damn to ramu or any other fake liberal
Do you think Comrade Ramu is a fake liberal?
I rather think he is a liberal!
Addressing the party’s National Council meeting here, the BJP’s star campaigner gave a new spin to the victory of Barack Obama in the US Presidential elections claiming that it was the result of the American citizens being fed up with the stranglehold of a few families in politics.
“It was senior Bush for two terms followed by two terms of Bill Clinton and then two terms of junior Bush and then there was the possibility of another Clinton. The people there felt if it will be only two families that will run the country”, Modi contended.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/one-family-has-ruined-everything-in-india-modi/420752/
Modernity should be in Approch/thinking and not in Smoking/Drinking/having sex/wearing sex clothese and giving Gaali in English.
Why then our Media/Intellectual/Modern thinking like ramu NOT protestd when young boys/girls were raided by police party and found to having drugs in a party in Pune.
good one
http://arindamb.sulekha.com/blog/post/2009/02/hindu-talibans-disappoint-media.htm
@ramu
>3) Is it OK for hindu girls to talk to muslim boys, and vice versa?
This what happens to Hindus when they marry a muzie girl.
http://www.asianage.com/archive/htmlfiles/India/Youth%20killed%20for%20marrying%20Muslim.html
Youth killed for marrying Muslim
By PRANMOY BRAHMACHARI
Berhampore
July 31: A kangaroo court brutally “punished’ one Sailendra Prasad at his in-law’s village Lakshmanpur in Berhampore as he married Manera Bibi.
The judges of a self-proclaimed village court never agreed to their inter-religion marriage. The Berhampore police arrested the three self-styled village court judges for ordering a fatwa of death sentence to Sailendra. Sailendra from Bihar worked in Mumbai and had a close relationship with Manera by hiding his religion. When he came to Lakshmanpur village, he disclosed his religious identity in an inebriated state. Being angry for his drinking habit, his father-in-law Ansaria Sheikh and mother-in-law Fatema Bibi disclosed his religious identity to the self-styled village “judge”. A Kangaroo court was set up and they forcibly disrobed Sailendra and gave a death sentence to him.
Accordingly, Sailendra’s throat was slit and he was brutally killed on July 14. His body was hid in a jute field. On July 17, the Berhampore police recovered his decomposed body but was clueless about the murder. However, the victim’s wife and her parents failed to bear the brutal killing of Sailendra.
Now it will be interesting to see how you are going to defend your brothers and their faith.
@ Another Indian
So your point is that the same thing is fine when it happens vice versa too? Or not?
I ask questions about Mohammed and caricatures etc on Muslim blogs, and about the community’s attitudes. Here my questions are towards the pro-BJP, pro-RSS people.
I am asking questions here because here you have the so-called right of central political views, and therefore, I am looking for answers to the official stands of BJP and the bogger.
Yossarin has made it clear that he stands for rule of law. That’s fine, thank you.
Now, how about the questions about what is right and wrong according to right-wing Hindu ideology?
Please understand this — there are a lot of us who do not care for the Congress or the commies, but that does not mean we are automatically for the BJP either.
So the questions I posted earlier remain…
Ramu – I have addressed this very clearly earlier on 2 occassions
http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2007/05/17/morality-of-licentiousness/
http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008/01/08/flat-world-hindutva-of-liberty-licentiousness-and-bigotry/
http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008/01/09/flat-world-hindutva-individual-freedom-socio-economic-choice/
Also:
http://www.dailypioneer.com/154939/Nine-arrested-in-connection-with-Bangalore-blasts.html
Remember the Bangalosre blasts which the media promptly blamed on Hindus?
Turns out they were by muslims with the standard whines.
The module was “radicalised by general feeling of perceived injustice to Muslims in India due to Babri Masjid demolition and Godhra incident and Gujarat riots,” the police officer said. They decided (to trigger blasts) on Bangalore due to the iconic status it acquired after the IT boom and the economic prosperity and that it was BJP-ruled, they said.
‘He is my son, but not leftist’
One of the five, arrested on charges of harassing Kerala MLA Kunhambu’s daughter, wore a saffron ‘lungi’ while he was being produced at the judge’s residence on Saturday February 7.
However, when asked by media persons about the organization they belonged to, one had claimed that he was a Marxist while another one had said that he was from the DYFI and the third had claimed to be from the CITU initially and then the AITUC.
Kariyappa Shetty, a CPI (M) member from Majibail panchayat in Manjeswara said, “Sathish is a son of mine, but does not agree with Communism and he is not involved in our party activities. He rarely comes home. He stays in Mangalore.”
P P Hegde, lawyer for the accused, said that Sathish, who is a bus conductor, is the son of a CPI(M) member Kariyappa Shetty. He briefed media persons on this after appearing before Judge A N Pattan and filing a bail application.
Source: Local Mangalore news paper
http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=56626
@ Yossarin
Went through them. You have explained your idea of how Hindutva should impact our actions well.
You are pretty clear that laws should not be broken, and any moral disapproval should remain at the point of a boycott or social ostracism, at the extreme. That’s what I have understood. And there is a clear no to breaking laws and vandalism.
Now, just like many other ideologies, this too gets totally distorted on the ground level. Like Advani and co may not have planned to pull down the Babri structure, but it happened. A disapproval of Jihadis gets translated at the ground level as beating Muslim boys who talk to girls.
I am not going into the sins of other ideologies now – but no ideology seems to survive the raw realities on our streets.
Something I would do if I were an RSS or BJP activist –
When someone says that they would forcibly marry off (stupid threat, I know), I would come out and say, while I disapprove of Valentine’s day and whatnot, if you cross the limit and interfere in other people’s business, we would be there to make sure you don’t do it. As the main proponent of the idea, I have a responsibility to ensure that it doesn’t get misused.
But what we see is a refusal to acknowledge the miscreants who distort any ideology into goondaism.
Why? That is not important? Or taking on for correcting those who misuse my ideology to get a grope or two, or beat up people, is not my responsibility -and thats just collateral damage?
(a request to others – pls dont bring up commies, I would pose questions to commies on commie blogs, thank you)
> 3) Is it OK for hindu girls to talk to muslim boys
The question is not really about “talking” is it? It is our duty to make them aware that, due to the personal law, they will have FAR fewer rights if they proceed with such relationships as compared to other faiths. Girls are more emotional than boys, so this education has to happen during the school going years.
Now, don’t take it as an ideological point of view, this is my personal view as a father of teens.
Modi-Jaitley duo to be new face of BJP
Feb. 8: The BJP’s national executive, which ended its three-day session in Nagpur on Sunday, has signalled the formal anointing of a new power centre: its high-profile general secretary Arun Jaitley and flamboyant chief minister Narendra Modi, who are all set to step into the shoes of veterans like Atal Behari Vajpayee and Lal Krishna Advani.
It was Mr Advani, BJP prime ministerial candidate in the looming general elections, who took the lead in signalling to the faithful that Mr Modi and Mr Jaitley would together be in charge of the party’s electoral strategy and campaign plan. While Mr Jaitley would handle the campaign for most of northern India, Mr Modi, in addition to Gujarat, would take charge of strategy in Maharashtra
http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/top-story/modi-jaitley-duo-to-be-new-face-of-bjp.aspx
>>But what we see is a refusal to acknowledge the miscreants who distort any ideology into goondaism.
But Comrade Ramu,
I see people here on this “right of center” blog who are desperate — very desperate — to “prove” that commies were not involved in the attack on the girl. What is this if not defence of goondaism? You see, the concern of communist extremists is not that the girl suffered humiliation, it is that commies are discovered to be the culprits! And then some commie gets on and whines that people are being accused of being commies! You yourself friend, started by claiming that chances are very little that DYFI was involved. The very fact that somebody after my own heart, a decent human being prone to get duly outraged at attacks on women , is all eager to give benefit of doubt to commie thugs is extremely unsettling. Why are you then so desperate to see “a refusal to acknoweldge the miscreants …” etc, given your own proclivity to side with the commies.
Somehow I am reminded of the commies who claimed that the rapes in Nandigram do not discredit the Left.
People like you ought to make sure that no commie is going to trot out defences in favor of commie thugs who attacked the girl.
Indian media , most of English Media is not India’s well-wisher , may be a conflict of interest as some of these media houses actually have a big foreign stakes (NDTV PLC is 100% incorporated in UK with operations in Pakistan and Arabia , while CNN-IBN , Times now have big stakes from foreign cos) . The journalists hired to work in these media houses report India from a foreign perception, no stake in India’s interest , they just feed and prosper on the anarchy around making lot of commerical gains through sensational news , while trying to be a king-maker or power-brokers on their own at times . The quality of reporting is pathetic , no proper research , no analysis , no follow-ups , no reporting of rural India, no positive reporting of achievements rather development miracles (as in Gujarat), dropping issues abrubtly , its pure propoganda and smear campaign . baseless allegations , some of the reporting is so crude even from the so called esteemed papers , as if Manthra is reborn with pure venom spewing out of her .
There is no accountability , no credibility and absolutely no sense of responsibility. For TRPs, for ensuring people are kept glued to their channel they will show the face of a small boy on TV ,who is a sole witness to a crime , they will cajole an army officer to fire a Bofors gun without understanding the repurcussions , they dare criticise the office of Chief of Indian Navy , they dare state the Mangalore hooligans as monsters while being a timid pussy when it comes to terrorism elsewhere in the country , when it comes to forced conversions or illegal immigration changing the country’s demography , or even if comes to speaking against politicians spreading the poison of caste around . At the best they soft-pedal these issues, and when they make mistakes with their allegations, they never apologise, no integrity , no accountability, pure cunning behaviour.
Indian media folks, come to Britain or America , learn something more from here which the missionary schools in India didn’t teach you intentionally , and observe how the journalists in these country while criticising people and policies in a balanced manner , even bluntly sometimes , also steadfastly protect the interest of their nation , and not play petty politics with it . There is a line no one crosses when it comes to protecting national interests. While the tabloids just maul a section of the society if they feel them going against national interests, the mainstream papers also gently remind all what is good for their country. Just watch the media in these countries, follow the print and you will learn how to serve your country well . jiska namak khate ho uske saath namak-halaal bano. Jai Hind !!
“Team Advani” is something that can do wonders in coming election. Rather than project Advani as PM candidate, “Team Advani” should be projected as replacement of UPA.
What do you say yossarin??
Gujjuman – agree I think it will happen in the days to come.
Ramu,
1) Is it against Indian culture if women go to pubs?
A BIG YES
2) Is it against Indian culture if they wear sexy clothes?
A VERY BIG YES!
3) Is it OK for hindu girls to talk to muslim boys, and vice versa?
WITH MUSLIM BOYS & GIRLS OK BUT NOT WITH JIHADI ROMEOS
4) If someone does stuff which is against Indian culture, what is the appropriate response?
CORRECT THEM WITH APPROPRIATE RESPONSE, SAMA, BEDHA, DHANDA
5) Is the only difference between the Rama Sene and BJP that while one believes in using force, while the other doesn’t – so methodology, not the idea is the problem?
YOU NEED TO ASK RAMA SENA GUYS & BJP TO ANSWER IT.
Any thing else guy???
People like Sakthi are the bane of India and Hindu culture. If people like you understood what India was in ancient times, before the advent of Islam and Victorian ideals of sexuality, you would probably be shocked.
1) Women should go to pubs if they want
2) Women should wear sexy clothes if they want
3) Girls of any religion can talk to whoever they want.
Offstumped -
Please moderate and possibly remove Sakthi’s comments from the blog. His/her comments do not belong in modern India.
Sakthi has not stated anything immoral, obscene, vulgar or against the law of the land. He has not called names. Those are his opinions only. In this democratic country every one has a right to hold his opinion and express it unless it is against the law of the land. ” I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,” Evelyn Beatric Hall said illustrating Voltaire’s beliefs on Freedom of Speech. At the most one can say that Sakthi wants to take us back to the medieval era. But that does not mean that we should muzzle his voice.
But I too consider we should discourage pub culture – not only for women but men too. Even teenagers become regular customers in pubs. When people start spending more money on liquor than on staple rice there is something definitely wrong. When the government starts counting the revenue on sale of liquor at the end of every festival, there is definitely something wrong with the system. When people who hold important positions in political parties encourage consumption of liquor and hold the view that purchase of liquor should be part of monthly grocery, there is something terribly wrong with the system. How much money is spent by daily wage earners (even by the middle class people) on liquor which could have been used for health care and education of children.
May be, I too belong to the medieval era. People can booze , roam around in scanty clothes and indulge in any kind of activities – that is perhaps the FREEDOM to ……..
Extreme actions or reactions are not going to lead us anywhere.
@Keshav
Why should Shakti’s comment be removed? Free speech is a fundamental right in this country, and he is entitled to his opinion.
It’s a different matter that his comments have nothing to do with the topic of the post,
Dear Yoss,
DYFI is not student wing, Youth wing, which is the organization to show the muscle strength oo the party. In that way it is to prepare a leader with muscle and money power who can control the area with undercover help from the local CPIM jonal commeetee head. Jonal secretary controls the local government administrator, including police. Then the Yougth organization get protactive layer against their wrong doing.
During this episode, on satarday early morning, five person killed in Nanoor, Birbhum, WB, due to the clash between villager and CPIM’s outsider gang who wanted to take control of village. But national english media did not cover the story. Just gave a one sentence touch.
Folks,
Has anyone captured the latest India Today issue which clearly states in an opinion poll that Young Guns prefer NaMo over Rahul?
Very heartened to see also NaMo looking at Maha and Goa apart from Guj for LS ’09.
Yoss,
May I request you to start a separate topic where we can see all Opinion polls / poll related updates? Its < 100 days to the new govt in Delhi.
@Sakthi
Its because of people like you that we Hindus are getting a bad name . You are against pub culture but can you go to a village anywhere in INdia and close Arrack or Toddy shops? If you do that I am sure you will be strung up by your balls. People drink spurious liquor and die in villages and small towns , have you ever stopped them? I dont think so.
You are against pub culture only because girls drink I think and for MCP’s like you men can drink, womanise and make merry. Shame on you dont call yourself a Hindu and insult us.
@ Sakthi
At least Sakthi is very clear where he stands on these issues.
In fact, most vocal supporters of BJP seem to have the same ideas – not the follow-the-law stand of Yossarin.
@Yogesh
This is the India Today poll which says the under-35s favor Modi.
http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&issueid=92&id=27396&Itemid=1§ionid=36
More specific information about the arrested men and their party affiliations
Arvinda Das is a CPM Branch committee member of the Kaadamanai branch in the Badiyadukka Panchayat.
Satish (conductor) is the son of CPI’s Panchayat Member, Kariyappa Shetty, of the Meencha Panchayat .
Come on Ramu Boy you can do better than this.
You could see lot of comments on this message board but you found it suitable only to pick Sakthi’s comment and attribute it to BJP. (There were lot of people who have un-equivocally condemned the Mangalore incident) You remind me of MSM. They also eagerly wait for one mis-quote from any leader from BJP and then play it 100 times with the slogan – “Didn’t I say you this is what BJP represents. Communal blood thirsty monsters” (Maybe this is the MSM effect – Get well soon mamu)
Another thing… Atleast people have the freedom to voice their opinions. Atleast there is no double standards where Gandhi family is holier than thou or politburo words are inviolable.
But anyway keep it up ramu boy you keep me entertained.
Ramu,
“In fact, most vocal supporters of BJP seem to have the same ideas”
Please do check properly. you may have heard about it in IBNLIVE or NDTV, but reality may be that the vocal supporters masquerading as BJP members may turn out to be CPM branch committee member or DYFI functionary.
Sakthi is Ramu’s friend. Sakthi plays the straw man to beat the bigger monster Yossarin.
“TEAM ADVANI”
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Dear G: In Gujarat prohibition is in force. You say ” If you do that I am sure you will be strung up by your balls” . I have not heard anybody has ever been strung up his balls.
You say people consume spurious liquor. People indulge in many other things, say consume tobacco, ganja, bhang, and many other narcotics and also oldest of the professions. Do you think these things should be legalized/legitimized? Is it not the duty of the government to discourage, if not ban, such things. Despite the ban or discouragement, if somebody wants to drink or use narcotics or indulge in any other things, it is their funeral. They know what they are doing. Let them die or suffer. But these things are to be banned or at least discouraged. Nobody is going to gain anything giving such freedom.
I have seen so many people advocating the pub culture. Friends, tell me from the bottom of your heart if somebody from your family, your brother, your sister, your wife or your near and dear go to a pub what will be your reaction. I have seen different rules for different people, something for oneself and something for others.
Just go through the matrimonial columns and check what is given against drinking habits of the brides/grooms and also what is expected of their prospective grooms/brides. Why this hypocrisy.
Why are you people going off tangent?
The topic of this blog post is not the extremes that people exhibit — support for commie thugs from people like Comrades Ramu and Beijing on one side and support for Sriram Sena activists from Sakthi on the other side.
The real issue is the extremism that media is representing. How many people know that CPIM’s Karats have close relationship (by marriage) with Prannoy Roy of NDTV? Or that Comrade N Ram is a one of the founders of SFI?
A major section of the media is slanting news — and sometimes even concocting it — to be exploited by communists as propaganda offensive, perhaps even to obscure the thuggery of DYFI types. That is the danger that Yossarin is referring to. Stick to the subject.
Any thing on legal options available to the victims of slanderous and prejudiced campaign ?. Ram jathmalani was ready to take up kasab’s case..can he take up the case of these victims of talibanized media houses like NDTV and CNN/IBN. Also, can chaitanya kunte guy who is the victim of NDTV’s threatening move help ?..or what about lawyers of rival media houses..ToI was the one who brought the real truth out..can they help the victims ?…what other options are there ?…
whiners (ramu, ramu under different names & his ilk) on this blog r trying to divert the topic here…this is not a place to hone one’s group discussion and debate skills…..so o pint trying to be politically correct or reason with dogmatics who call themselves as liberals. Like yoss says often, everybody here should stand for dharma which is nothing but law for greater good of Idia and planet. It boils down to “U r with us or against us”…and MSM is clear on its stance..its against good, gentle and hard working people of India , it wants to feed wrong info to us and that amounts to treason against state.
Also…whiners (ramu, ramu under differet names & his ilk)on the blog are trying to label participants of blog as supporters of BJP ad RSS…that is a incomplete attempt to categorize nationalists and humanists …personally…I think we all here are mature enough to support any person, org, party that supports the dharma that can bring good for common man in India ad world at large. BJP is the closest possible choice ,currently.
OT:
Thanks for sounding the alarm on the turn this discussion has taken.
Pub culture and its attendant merits/ demerits were not the topics on this blog but the tendency to give a ‘saffron’ slant to any issue by the media esp the 24*7 ELM.
All this sudden focus on Karnataka is not to some new found moral virtues but in preparation for the Lok Sabha 2009 polls.
These are just the curtain raisers, wait for the main course when there will be a no holds barred attack and below the belt attacks on BJP.
Today at a news conference addressed by Home Minister Shri Chidambaram, many media persons queried about the pub attack. They did not asked about the abduction of the MLA’s daughter (as it ended in an anti-climax). They did not ask about the Lavlin case. They did not ask about the suicide of three school girls who were subjected to sexual harassment on several occasions. They did not ask about the involvement of ministers’ sons in the Total4U Scam.
Media is not interested in anything but painting hindus and any party who even thinks of taking care of hindu interest in the blackest of paint. They jump the gun to tarnish hindus/hindu outfits. It is time we understood why they behave this way. Who are those dark forces pulling the strings which leaves no oppotunity to tarnish hindus, hindu religion, calling them saffron/hindutva terrorists. Others are just miscreants even if they serial bomb our cities killing hundreds, for they have invented a new terminology – terrorists have no religion, unless they are not hindus.
India is a secular nation. Is it not a paradox that we have “X-party (Secular), Congress which has a patent for secularism has embraced Muslim League etc. When somebody, some party claims they are secular, they assume that there are communal parties around that too in a secular nation. Then why don’t they take it up legally. It is time parties come out of these absurdities. Then there are the communists who profess “Dictatorship of the Proletariat” but they too repeat ad nauceam democracy and secularism. What is the locus standi of a party who believes in “dictatorship” in a democracy ? Rather than doing anything constructive, most of the time and energy is spent in throwing muck at each other. Is our country secular and democratic. Is our forth estate non-partisan ? It is time the political parties and the MSM came out of this quagmire to retrieve their credibility.
Just to clarify – I dont user another username, whats the point?
My opinion that Sakthi represents most BJP-RSS supporters come from personal experience.
And my Hindu friends all belong to a class-strata where we go to pubs, sometimes go to a pub (not disco, we cant talk there) with our parents or relatives too to celebrate an anniversary, everyone has a peg or two, we may or may not dance, and our sisters were clothes which to some people may look sexy.
I think BJP / RSS does not understand the changes that have already happened among the new generation – the forward looking, professional, well-earning Hindus – and this would be a bad strategy in the next five years.
I don’t see much Muslims being upset by the pub attacks etc – they agree with the RSS that these are evil things anyway. I see the normal Hindu brother who thinks his sisters and their friends out for a party may get thrashed.
Maybe I am meeting the wrong kind of Hindus!
Ramu – That is just the dumbest argument I have seen made in this hijacking of debate on this post. No political party has a monopoly on prudishness or licentiousness. These are traits neutral to political predilection. Please stick to the topic and no more. hijacking else I will have to enforce strict moderation.
Yoss , can you Please spare us the commies on this blog in the name of ‘ Freedom of Expression’ ? There are a million places on the web where they can go and display their hijacking skills.
Moreover, rather than making clickable maps. can you not integrate a phpBB forum focussing on seat wise issues.
Ex :State: Maharashtra >> Sub Forums >> 1.Konkan 2.Vidarbha 3. Marathwada. 4. Mumbai .
Similarly for all states ? It will be easy to focus a particular area (ex:Rayalseema ) rather than viewing the state as one unit ?
Thanks.
Please read “When is the right time to ask?“.
At the minimum, hindu girls should be made aware what is in store for them when they marry mohammedans.
Also how mohammedans have raped hindu women and abused them and digraced/humiliated them to show their contempt for them as hindus/women.
Also they should be made aware that they would be abetting in the destruction of (hindu) culture.
And my Hindu friends all belong to a class-strata where we go to pubs, sometimes go to a pub (not disco, we cant talk there)
@ramu
plz check if your friend name is only Hindu OR THEIR RELIGIOUS too is hinduism.
Actually till few months back we were thinking that Prannoy Roy is “Bhadrolok BANGAL Hindu”
anyway what the reilgioon is to do with “pub”….oh “Bar”
its just like “bidi”"hookah” is old fashioned But “Cigarratte” is ModernityYouth.
if “pub” is ok for you then ask this govt to have “Wine/rum/scotch/whisky” in their MID DAY MEAL scheme in SCHOOL.
Yoss – the topic being on media again, can you let us know if there are any attempts done regarding setting up of a ‘dharma’ TV ?
maybe to educate adolescent ramus… !!
Narendra Modi was charged with disregarding democratic values, but he is an ambitious man. He will wait for his turn but wants the top job. And his aspiration is making him surrender to democracy.
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090082950
Now will NDTV say how Modi disregarded Democratic values??????
“Ek parivar ke ateet ko aage badhane ke liye jo shadayantra chal raha hai, usse Hindustan ke bhavishya ko khatra hai”
well said modiji and we must expose these people of “Padmashri”
Prashant: Why don’t you avoid NDTV. They are nauseatingly biased.
kv
dear its now election time so we must keep track of them….in fact expose them by asking question of their “doormat” reporting.
i asked ndtv explain wat you mean by that paragraph and prove it.
Sorry to be off the topic:
I thought hindu temples are for worship. But I am shocked to learn that Chidambaram temple is taken over by the DMK, atheist government, to promote TOURISM. What kind of secularism is this ? The UPA and its allies are on full throttle to destroy hinduism and hindu temples. Loot and scoot !!!
One more feather in the cap of Secularist Talibans.
Karnataka Government is making the right moves to put a check on prejudiced reporting of MSM.
http://www.hindu.com/2009/02/09/stories/2009020954830600.htm
Of course three people were opposed to this move. They are District secretary of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) B. Madhava, The spokesperson for the Mangalore Catholic Diocese, Onil D’Souza and Ismail N., principal of the Badria College. How can the beneficiaries of prejudiced reporting of MSM accept this move?
Right from the day BJP assumed power in Karnataka, the congress & JD(S) have been raking up one non-issue after another. The government should just ignore these barking dogs and continue on the development work that it has undertaken. Just the number of roads that have been tarred and the number of traffic signals that have been installed in Bangalore is much more than what all the previous Governments did in all of Karnataka
@AI
thanks for your link to Hindu.
A welcome step by Karnatak govt.
and also wait for “hue & cry” from our media on this move when the fact is they have appointed same watchdog but that dog s blind.
just see how that fellow has to say on media:
“It is the prerogative of the media to play up or underplay an event. It does not undo the fact that there has been a systemic failure to curb the menace of vigilantism,” he said.
Amar accuses Cong of misusing CBI to settle political scores
http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27662§ionid=4&issueid=92&Itemid=1
Bechara Amar Singh, sarkar bhi bachayi,badnaam bhi hue,pagal bhi kahlaye par malai “madam” kha gayi
“My opinion that Sakthi represents most BJP-RSS supporters come from personal experience.”
Can you qualify your statements with suitable data. Are there any statistics or survey. Even if it is your opinion how many people have you met to come to this opinion.
“And my Hindu friends all belong to a class-strata where we go to pubs, sometimes go to a pub (not disco, we cant talk there) with our parents or relatives too to celebrate an anniversary, everyone has a peg or two, we may or may not dance, and our sisters were clothes which to some people may look sexy.”
If some of your friends do so then good for them and if their sisters wear clothes which is “sexy” then its their choice and no one has the damn right to question them. But you cannot take them as representative of all hindus. I am from Bangalore and most of the people I know would prefer to stay home with the family or hang out with friends at a movie or a restaurant than go to pub. Also the girls I know would prefer to wear modest clothes by choice.
“I think BJP / RSS does not understand the changes that have already happened among the new generation – the forward looking, professional, well-earning Hindus – and this would be a bad strategy in the next five years.”
Thanks for the unsolicited advice. Have you ever heard of something called IT-milans. These are attended by forward looking, professional, well-earning Hindus. Their number is growing day by day. The shaka I go to had a strength of 7 when I started now its 19. (9 months).
“I don’t see much Muslims being upset by the pub attacks etc – they agree with the RSS that these are evil things anyway. I see the normal Hindu brother who thinks his sisters and their friends out for a party may get thrashed.”
Why do you have to bring muslims in each and every debate. They are upset or not it is upto them. What happened to Mangalore was highly reprehensible and should not happen in the future.(period)
“Maybe I am meeting the wrong kind of Hindus!”
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Folx,
Sorry for taking the decision off-topic again.
YSR’s evangelist son-in-law triggers ‘war of words’
A three-day prayer meeting organised last week in Vijayawada has the Andhra Pradesh Opposition up in arms.
They are accusing the government of using the state machinery to help evangelist Brother Anil Kumar organise the Jesus Christ Blessings Festival — he is the son-in-law of Chief Minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy.
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/YSRs-evangelist-soninlaw-triggers-war-of-words/421191/
Lot of people out here has been exposed to their real face after the answer to Mr.Ramu’s questions. (i dont use comarade because that is stupid!).
Yes, Toddy/Liqour/Arrack/Pub whatever it is should bebanned. it is not talibanism. after going to all these places, the poeple behave like Rakshasas!, and that is not Indian culture, of course. And everyone advocates good quality or Dharma is not attached to any Political party mind it. Dont allow media or some durnkards hijack our consensus!
And when a Woman in a family is ruined by drinking the whole family is gone. Even the Drinking habit itself should be eradicated, that eats the thinking part of the brain. immaterial Men/or women, if you think that is not modern, then you should be ready to pay your fat hospital bill in future! nothing more regarding this.
MEDIA IS REAL TALIBAN! and in Bharath it has been hijacked & bought!
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