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Malegaon Blast Case – ATS Credibility not Hindutva on Trial

4th update – There are now 4 contradictory versions on the origin of this transcript. CNN-IBN says its a tape, NDTV says its an eyewitness account of a phone conversation, Indian Express says its a hearsay account of conversation in a room in Ujjain where, apart from Ramji and the Sadhvi, a third person was present, who is now a witness. This witness, who was present in that room, gave a 15-page statement with details of the alleged conversation at the Mazgaon magistrate?s court on October 23. The Telegraph says its a wiretap of 400 minutes of phone conversation recorded a few days after the blast. That about sums up how credible the ATS’s case against the accused.

3rd Update – Now the Indian Express and the Telegraph contradict each other highlighting the abysmal standards of journalism of the Indian Media. According to the Telegraph the transcript was from 400 minutes of recorded telephone conversation independently corroborated by an eye witness. According to the Indian Express the transcript was of a real conversation inside a room in Ujjain between two of the accused with the eyewitness physically present.

How pray can two media outlets covering the same court room proceedings have such dramatically different accounts of what happened ?

Is it so impossible to get basic journalism right in courtroom in Nasik ?

2nd Update – We are also now being told that this transcript is based on an eye-witness. Now here we were thinking this was a wiretap. No folks it was not.

So who is this eye-witness who managed this incredible feat of listening to both sides of a telephone conversation. That must have taken some superhuman hearing skills.

1st Update – Since Offstumped went to press with this post, IBNLive is reporting that the court was shared with a transcript of an alleged phone conversation between 2 of the accused. While it is unclear when this conversation took place it is rather strange that the accused should be discussing the blast 25 days after the incident. A simple google search reveals that the last time the motorcycle was referenced in the media was on Oct 13th and which time the identity of the owner was still unknown. So it begs the question when and how did the accused become aware of the motorcyle being traced to her before actually being picked up by the cops. This transcript raises more questions than offers credible answers.

Offstumped has been reserved on passing judgement on this case since the rumors, first surfaced?on Malegaon.?In what is increasingly looking like an orchestrated media campaign?at the?behest of the Congress Party it is becoming clear that the Maharashtra Anti Terrorism Squad?does not have a credible case in Malegaon.?

While the Mumbai 7-11 sham investigations and the subsequent Malegaon 2006 investigations were never conclusive if there was one thing about the recent Indian Mujahideen arrests it was the specificity of the case against the suspects.

While one may subscribe to the Innocent until Proven otherwise maxim, atleast in each of the arrests starting from Abu Bashir by the Gujarat police to the slaying down of Atif in the Batla encounter? in New Delhi to the arrest of Peerbhoy by the Mumbai ATS, the police were very specific on what each of these individuals, where and when with some material evidence to back those specific allegations.

The problem with the Malegaon fishing expedition is that we have heard more on the “larger conspiracy” and practically nothing on “who did what, when and where”.

The only specific facts of the case that the ATS has gone on record and the media keeps regurgitating at every opportune occassion are

- a bike that was apparently sold 4 years ago

- records indicating 400 minutes of cellular phone conversation between 3 individuals

That friends is about how credible the ATS’s case is against the Sadhvi. As Offstumped had initially suspected this is turning out to be more about the Congress’ attempt to divert attention away from its failures in the larger War on Terror and the Communal Socialists in the media are not disappointing it.

With the ATS’s credibility hanging by the thread the BJP has asked some tough questions of it. Offstumped has reproduced the same in full to demand that they be answered.\

Questions from the BJP on the Malegaon Blast Case.

The BJP has been clearly of the view that terrorism needs to be dealt with firmly and that terrorists have got no religion. In the last four and a half years, terrorist have only become emboldened because of the soft approach of the UPA government. At the same time, there ought not to be any sponsored investigation. If there is any evidence action must be taken and law should take its course. It is now so many days that Pragya Thakur is in the custody of Anti Terrorism Squad (ATS) Mumbai, and no evidence till date has come in public domain much less credible evidence showing the complicity of Pragya Thakur in the Malegaon Blasts of 2008. Media has widely reported that nothing emerged against her even in the Polygraphy Test, Brain Mapping Tests and Lie Detector Tests. Therefore some very relevant questions do arise relating to the circumstances of investigation by the ATS of Malegaon Blast of 2008 in which Pragya Thakur is alleged to be involved.

ATS INVESTIGATION IN MALEGAON BLAST OF 2006

There was a bomb blast in Malegaon on 8.09.2006 near the Hamidia Masjid and Bada Kabristan in which 31 persons were killed and over 312 were injured. It was found relevant to examine the investigation report of the ATS, Mumbai pertaining to the said blasts and one is surprised to learn that all the conspiracy, motivation, lead and design found by the same ATS in the chargesheet including the complicity of terrorist elements including involvement of Pakistani terrorists in the Malegaon blasts 2006 has been completely reversed in regard to Malegaon blasts 2008. In the 2006 blasts, 3 cases were filed being Azad Nagar, PS Case No 95& 96/2006 and Malegaon City PS Case No 3088 of 2006. Vide the order dated 23/10/2006, the investigation of all the three cases was taken over by the ATS, Mumbai and the chargesheet (final report under section 173(2) of Cr.P.C) was submitted on 21/12/2006 under the signature of K.N Shengal, Assistant Commissioner of Police, ATS, Mumbai. It is very important to quote from the said Final report so that the suspicion with regards to the present investigation may be highlighted. Some of the major findings of the said investigation is being highlighted as follows

1. ?In order to exploit the communal sensitiveness of the said city (Malegaon), zealot leaders and members of the banned organization SIMI with their extremist ideology always tried to manipulate the situation by playing with the religious sentiments of the locals and incited them to avenge the alleged brutality committed on them?. ( Page 1 of the Report).

2. The ultimate intention was of stirring up communal riots by creating communal disharmony because the area had mainly a Muslim populace (Page 2 of the report).

3. SIMI by advocating, abating, advising and inciting the Indian Muslim Youth against the policies of Government of India to promote enmity between different groups on the ground of religion and the objective of the criminal conspiracy was to overawe the Government by causing communal riots all over the state (Page 4 of the Report)

4. Investigation has revealed that accused Mohammad Ali Alam Sheikh (A-6) went to Pakistan clandestinely to acquire training in terrorist camps. He also incited and sent Shabbir Ahmad Masiullah (A-2) to Pakistan for similar training. Mohammad Ali Alam Sheikh received a sum of Rupees 1.85 lakhs through Hawala from one Riyaz Bhatkal, a SIMI activist out of which he handed over a sum of Rupees 30, 000 to Shabbir Ahmad Masiullah (A-2) for the expenditure for obtaining training in Pakistan and thus there criminal conspiracy started taking shape (Page 4 of the Report).

Note ? The said Riyaz Bhatkal has also been found to be involved in the recent blasts in Gujarat, Rajasthan and other terrorist attacks. He is presently in the custody of Mumbai ATS but no Narco-Analysis at all has been done on him to unearth the nature of conspiracy.

5. In the pursuance of criminal conspiracy a meeting was held in the month of May 2006 at Malegaon in which 9 accused named in Paragraph 7, Page 6 of the Report participated and it was decided to carry out bomb blasts in such a manner and on such occasion that entire Muslim community would get completely infuriated and would come to the streets and resort to rioting and other law and order incidents thus disrupting the even tempo of the life of the community. (Paragraph 7, Page 6 of the Report).

6. In furtherance of criminal conspiracy, after the Bomb Blasts in local trains in Mumbai on 11th July 2006 a meeting was held in Mumbai in the 3rd week of July, 2006 where accused named in paragraphs 9 of the said report at page 7 participated where 2 Pakistani nationals, one of which was called Muzzamil (W-4) were also present with an intent to hatch a plan to commit similar acts of terror also in Malegaon. In the said meeting accused Shabbir Ahmad Masiullah (A-2) persuaded Mohammad Alam Sheikh (A-6) to make arrangements for providing necessary materials to assemble the bomb to be exploded in a religious place of Muslims in Malegaon so that Muslims would get infuriated (Paragraph 9 Page 7 of the Report).

7. The Selection of the Day of Shab-e-Barat falling on a Friday at the time of 1350 hours when there is likelihood of maximum impact with minimum damage to the devotees gathering for prayers and the location of Hamidia Masjid and Mushwart Chowk coupled with purchase of Bicycle from Hindu Shop owners was part of a deliberate and conscious plan to deflect the investigation away from organizations like SIMI and ensure that the focus of investigation shifted elsewhere. The choice of a Muslim religious place at Malegaon was deliberate as the conspirator decided that in order to incite the community only an attack of such a nature would give the desired result. (Para 14 at Page 8/9 of the Report).

8. The report mentions a total of 13 persons as accused out of which 9 were shown as arrested in the report and 4 are wanted. (Pages 12 & 13 of the Report). The Report in paragraph 25 at Page 13 states that all the accused are members of the banned organisation SIMI and were parties to a criminal conspiracy, the object of which was to overawe the government.

QUESTIONS

It is clearly evident that the ATS has a complete investigation report establishing the conspiracy by members of the SIMI who caused the Malegaon blasts including the vital fact that deliberately Bicycles were purchased from Hindu Shopkeepers to shift the focus of investigation and the whole objective was to cause communal unrest and overawe the government. In the case of Sadhvi Pragya Thakur surprisingly the story made out is that the scooter was at some point of time linked to her though it was subsequently reportedly sold or stolen away. The crucial question which emerges is as to why the investigation in connection with the 2008 Malegaon Blasts is not being conducted by the same ATS, Mumbai in the light of its own lead findings and conclusions relating to 2006 Malegaon Blasts as explained above. Is the ATS ignoring the earlier findings and leads deliberately. This suspicion becomes all the more credit worthy in view of the fact that no evidence much less credible evidence has been brought to light against Sadhvi Pragya Thakur till now. The BJP therefore demands as follows :

1. The ATS Mumbai must explain as to why it is not following at all the investigation in Malegaon 2008 blasts on the benchmark of the investigation in conclusion relating to 2006 blasts. This is all the more important because the role of SIMI in a series of Bomb Blasts all over the country is reappearing with alarming regularity and their involvement in 2008 Malegaon blasts also cannot be ruled out.

2. The nation is entitled to know immediately as to what is the evidence available against Pragya Thakur.

3. Mumbai ATS must explain as to why Riyaz Bhatkal, who was the Hawala link in 2006 Malegaon blasts and is found to be involved in a series of recent blasts all over the country has not been put to Narco Tests.

4. If the above questions are not satisfactorily explained at the earliest, it would be clear that the entire present investigation is lacking in fairness, transparency and may suffer the taint of a sponsored investigation.??

Filed under: Lok Sabha Polls 2008-2009, War on Terror, betrayal of aam admi ,

55 Responses

  1. KSV SUBRAMANIAN says:

    The present case against Sadhvi Pragya Thakur and other seem to be inspired. They are not revealing what transpired in the brain mapping tests, narco tests etc.etc. Today it is being put out that there are eye witnesses and withnesses who have overheard conversations. It is becoming curiouser by the day. Where were the eye witnesses earlier. Is it because they could not obtain anything from brain mapping and narco tests. Day in and day out the only story in news channels like NDTV is about the Malegaon Blasts. They have nothing to say about the recent blasts in Assam where over 77 deaths occurred and hundreds injured. This is a clever way to distract the attention of the public.

    The anti-hindu congress wants to divert attention from its failure to contain terrorism by labelling the hindu organizations in particular and hindu community in general as terrorists and fundamentalists. Congress is treading a dangerous path.

  2. prashant says:

    I believe we seriously need the “narco analysis” of Congress party and it will be clear that they are now “Muslim Christain League”

  3. prashant says:

    This Malegaon is not the LAST…..more to come till General Election and in fact even after BJP forms new govt thru sting operation etc……

  4. Indian says:

    In the end, when it is proven that Sadhvi is not guilty, who punishes Pranoy Roy or Sirdesai for bringing bad name to a great country, the greatest religion and media trying innocent people. Should they go free? Should not they pay a pric for their sins?
    Journalism can be no excuse for traitorous behavior. Neither can it to malign a religion falsely.

  5. Yoss,
    see the anchor report on HTs Sunday Delhi edition. I could not find that on web. Please do or I have that cutting with me, i am away and traveling, this post is related to that Sadhvi’s narco ana test resulted nothing as she practices Meditation …. kindly see
    .
    Print edition carry that on front page anchor news

    regards,
    PI.

  6. gujjuman says:

    Yossarin,

    Pseudo sec brigade has now come up with telephone transcripts from somewhere. I think its your favorite subject.

    check this out

    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sadhvis-terror-talk-caught-on-tape-cops/77359-3.html

  7. KSV SUBRAMANIAN says:

    The third rate politician is at it again – Digvijay Singh. His vitriolic against Modi : Modi funding Sadhvi’s NGOs in the Indian Express. Even a third rate politician would not stoop down so low. Is he not the same politician who called all hindus as terrorists ?

    The congress is not only soft on terror but actively trying to play down terrorism by going the whole hog against hindus calling them terrorists, calling hindu organisations for the terrorist bombings etc. The Congress and its ministers, its governments etc., are against the Sadhvi and her alleged accomplices. They are now hounding them with all the law enforcing machinery. The same machinery is not able to do anything about the frequent bomb blasts; but they are after the sadhvi. They want to malign the whole hindu community. Perhaps they will force the Sadhvi and others to own up all the bomb blasts in India or anywhere else in the world with all the third degree methods they are adapt at. By this way they can reap all the votes of minorities and start persecuting hindus for further 5 years.

  8. Nemkal says:

    Yossarin,
    I am not able to digest these psecs making hue and cry over malegaon blasts and branding the sadhvi as a terrorist.Who are these a… h… to give a verdict before the case is proved.Is that the majority community are nincompoops?It is high time a TV channel like Fox News is started at the right earnest.
    You switch on any channel these b……. are blurring only about Hindu terrorism and conveniently forgetting the Assam blasts.Let all likeminded people should stop watching these Channels and give a befitting reply to them and show what we can do.

    Jai Bajrangbali.

  9. Kumar says:

    Seeing all this, some times I get so depressed. If we can’t/won’t/don’t solve these p-sec problems now, we will never be able to. At this rate, the entire nation will get indoctrinated against right wing national interest thinking.

    Lets hope we save ourselves before its too late.

  10. Sud says:

    It is when the night appears darkest that dawn is just round the corner.

    Or that is the hope, at least.

  11. Bharat says:

    Case against Sadhvi lacks fairness: BJP

    “The nation is entitled to know immediately as to what evidence is available against Pragya Thakur,” party spokesperson Ravi Shankar Prasad said in New Delhi

    If the questions cannot be answered satisfactorily, it is clear that the entire investigation is lacking in fairness, transparency and may suffer the taint of ‘a sponsored investigation’, he added.

    “Mumbai Anti-Terrorist Squad must explain as to why Riyaz Bhatkal, an accused in the 2006 Malegaon blasts, and who is allegedly involved in a series of recent blasts all over the country has not been put to narco tests,” Prasad charged.

    “This suspicion further rises in view of the fact that no credible evidence has been brought to light against Sadhvi Pragya Thakur till now,” Prasad alleged, adding his party is of the view that terrorism needs to be dealt with firmly and that terrorists have got no religion.

    http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/03malegaon.htm

  12. reason says:

    Let us just take a moment to recall that any of these belated realizations did not prevent BJP’s PM candidate from assuming the Sadhvi’s guilt even before the charges were clear. And let us recall that he declared that the Sadhvi ‘could have parted ways because her thoughts and actions did not match’. And compared her with naxalites and gave a unsolicited ‘clean chit’ to communists – “naxalites also claim to follow the Marxist ideology just as Left parties like CPM. But they have nothing to do with CPM, CPI or other Left parties which are part of mainstream politics”. Let us just look at the role of Indian communists in bringing in Maoist rule in Nepal and weigh this clean chit in that context.

    I saw this timesofindia link at this blogs’ comments, posting again -
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Sadhvi_has_nothing_to_do_with_BJP/articleshow/3647814.cms

    May be we dont like words to be dissected, but when spoken words are all we have, they need to be dissected. Every bit.

  13. BIRJU says:

    Whwn Maharashtra police could allow Raj thackeray to hold a press conference even in police custody ,why are they not allowing sadhviji to speak to the country and make her point clear?

  14. Sharat says:

    A troubling Question for one and All…

    Why does Media gets away with all misreporting ?

  15. Ashish says:

    Why does Media gets away with all misreporting ?
    ————————

    Because the average Hindu sees all kinds of demons and devils where none exist, and hence never opens his mouth to question or hold anyone accountable. All courtesy of:
    1. Misquoting of our scriptures to justify cowardice
    2. Constitutionally-approved appeasement of minorities
    (and many more, but these 2 are the biggies)..

  16. Aryan says:

    There is not one muslim that condemns Islamic jehadi terrorism and they are all ready to support and defend their terrorists. Would it be too much for muslim leaders to speak out against terrorism? They dont, but go on to call hindus communal and blame them for their backwardness. What can hindus learn about indian muslims from that? Why shouldnt there be an economic boycott of muslims that refuse to condemn terrorism? Arent all muslims terrorists that refuse to condemn jihadi terrorism?

    We keep blaming congress stating that it encourages communal politics. But it can only do that becasue it has ready partners in Indian muslims. Tali ek haath se bajti hain? arent the muslims that vote for congress equally guilty? Among muslims and congress, which one is the dog and which one is the tail? whose wagging who?

    Hindus better learn to shoot ak47s and form defense groups if they are going to surive in India.

  17. Bharat says:

    This is hardly surprising!

    And, what exactly the goons expecting to find? Cops or goons (of Congress), whatever they are called, their only design is to frame Sadhvi and others, prove or no prove, to show Hindu terror exists. This is same as Indian communists writing of History of India. They have pre-defind conclusion, at the beginning, e.g. Mughal never destroyed any Hindu temples. After five years research (wasting national resources) they conclude, Mughals never destroyed any Hindu temples.


    It is becoming amply clear that when the Maharashtra cops use the forensic and the brain mapping and the narco tests to prove Sadhvi a Hindu ‘terrorist,’ you can be fairly certain that the cops do not have the evidence that she has actually engaged
    in or supported any terrorist act.

    Thus far the results of these tests do not seem to us to be either sufficient or substantial as justification for Sadhvi’s detention. She should released if the cops are unable to produce tangible evidence against her.
    =====
    Forensic tests on sadhvi Pragya draw a blank
    3 Nov 2008, 0246 hrs IST, TNN
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Forensic_tests_on_sadhvi_Pragya_draw_a_blank/articleshow/3666141.cms

    Investigators find Sadhvi a tough nut
    http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=Cricket&id=74bbb588-badd-4665-a612-88d264d2d38f&&Headline=Investigators+find+Sadhvi+a+tough+nut

    How much more abuse, insult and humiliations Hindus should tolerate? Ram does not exist, Ramayn is a fiction, Ram destroyed his own bridge, Govt decides Raam Setu don’t form the core of Hindu faith, Hindus have no right on any land in J&K, killing of 84 years old Swamiji on Janmastami night, and list goes on.

  18. K.Venugopal says:

    It can be correctly assumed that Muslims would not normally plant bombs in their own mosques. However, in the first Malegaon blasts in 2006, the ATS, it appears, has come to the conclusion that it was indeed Muslims who planted the bombs there. But they bought the cycles for planting the bombs from Hindu shops. It would therefore transpire that their motive in planting the bombs would have been to implicate Hindu organisations so that the stigma of Muslims alone being terrorists can be wiped out. But they failed in their attempts and no Hindu was implicated. So they planned more meticulously and this time they were able to implicate Hindus. The key is Sadhvi’s motorcycle. It must have coincidentally come into the hands of the Jehadis. And upon this bonanza they have built their plot. Therefore it is obvious that the Sadhvi or any Hindu activist is innocent of the latest Malegaon blast. This is a conspiracy by SIMI. The Congress has now joined the conspiracy as it knows the potential power the innocent Sadhvi has to move the Hindu electorate and therefore they will seek to keep the Sadhvi in prison under one charge or another till the elections are over, so that the Sadhvi cannot come out and become the next Jhansi Rani.

  19. Bharat says:

    BJP sweeps all 3 seats in by-polls

    DH News Service, Dharwad/Belgaum/Mangalore:
    The ruling Bharatiya Janata Party in Karnataka on Monday won all the three Legislative Council seats in the by-polls defeating the Congress-Janata Dal-Secular (JDS) combine.

    The voting took place on October 31 in Kodagu, Belgaum and Dharwad districts. BJP’s S G Medappa (Kodagu), Shashikant Naik (Belgaum) and Shivaraj Sajjannar (Dharwad) defeated their Congress rivals backed by the JDS.

    The Congress and the JDS joined hands to defeat, what they described as, “communal forces”, but the BJP candidates won with comfortable margins. Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa described the victory of the party candidates as a referendum on his government’s performance.

    http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Nov42008/scroll2008110498774.asp?section=updatenews

  20. Ashish says:

    Looks like junta is finding out who the real communal forces are…

  21. Bharat says:

    I could not stop loughing with this man. Either he gone totally mad or he is taking revenge on Congress. Else, why Diggy Singh call Hindus as terrroists? Does he thinks calling Hindus terrorists will make Hindus vote for Congress? I wonder how come a person who was two times CM, gone to such low level.
    ——-

    Diggy sees RSS hand in all blasts
    http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/india/diggy-sees-rss-hand-in-all-blasts.aspx

  22. arjun says:

    Digvijay Singh amends his remarks on Afzal.

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Digvijay_amends_remark_on_Afzal_Guru/articleshow/3670601.cms

    Digvijay amends remark on Afzal Guru

    NEW DELHI: AICC general secretary Digvijay Singh on Monday amended his ‘Afzal Guru must be hanged’ statement by saying that his “party has no reason
    to either support or oppose the capital punishment,” given to the prime accused in the Parliament attack case.

    Mr Singh, who has been invoking ‘Hindu terror’ — he had first raised the issue during the run up to the Gujarat election and contributed in making terrorism the main issue — had on Sunday told a press conference in Bhopal that Afzal should be hanged. It was quickly interpreted as part of the Congress’ attempts to insulate itself from the ‘soft on terror’ charge being made by the BJP.

    But that the central leadership was not ready to abandon its ‘law will take it course’ stand was evident on Monday, when a party spokesperson said that “due process of law” will be followed in the Afzal case. Congress spokesperson Jayanti Natarajan said the mercy petition of Afzal was still pending with the government.

    The flip-flop by Congress leaders comes at a time when the BJP is trying to revive the issue in the Delhi election. “The file on Afzal has been lying with the Delhi government. After becoming chief minister, I will clear the file in one day,” BJP’s chief ministerial candidate V K Malhotra had told reporters last week.

  23. trupti_inlaw says:

    Why do we not look for inspiration in our Arthasastra or Dharma debates how to tackle this kind of media ? any ideas/ thoughts ? It is clear that Congress and others are canvassing to put down the hindus in some form or the other, wha are the different ways we can tackle this? as i have read before, have your own media house but how do reduce or close the misreporting media? how canthe tarnished name of any one ( be it the Arushi case or any other) be avoided. i think there should be harsh punishment for the media such that they have to close down shop; in case of misreporting.Of course i think u have a law like anti – defmation or something but i do not think that stops anything.

    BTW, i read the news in Gulf news today , Impartial judicial scrutiny urged for India terror investigations ,By Pamela Raghunath, Correspondent
    http://www.gulfnews.com/world/India/10256738.html

    PLease note the media really gives a bad picture of certain events based on the local press. Even here in Middle East you only have NDTV being aired, so the views expressed here stay with all the international viewers and many of them go by these news. IT is only peple who read on blogs/ web will get the tru picture.Alslo here being a Muslim country more coverage is give to anti Hindu events.

  24. arjun says:

    BJP should ask Digvijay if he changed his views based on vote bank considerations.

  25. Jiggs says:

    Kumari Pragya Singh and her associates are innocent. Apart from what Yoss has posted here, there are many a questions and controversies against the line adopted by the investigating agency Mumbai Police A.T.S.

    The brain mapping test have been a cropper for the ATS and now on November 04, i.e. Today, she will be subjected to Narco Analysis at the Nagpada Police Hospital, Mumbai which is the H/Q of the ATS.

    I am supremely confident that she will come out of it and will be proven not guilty.

    Further, Gujarat A.T.S has goven Kumari Singh a clean chit in the Modasa blasts case.

  26. Jiggs says:

    Sorry …Yossarin….

    But cant resist posting this link, it is not related to the thread, but it is very important:

    “Quattrocchi case expensive wild goose chase: Govt”

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Centre_CBI_want_Quattrocchi_case_dismissed/articleshow/3670634.cms

    SO MUCH FOR RESPECT FOR TAX PAYERS MONEY, The feel that tax payers money is going down the drain in chasing Signor Quattrochhi and the case must be scrapped.

    YET ANOTHER ITALIAN JOB…. by the White lady and her GHULAMS…..

    DOWN WITH CONGRESS……SHAME ON CONGRESS…..

  27. trupti_inlaw says:

    What people think about the media in Gulf region

    http://www.gulfnews.com/yoursay/yougov/10007974.html

  28. arjun says:

    Sad state of affairs in UP BJP. A BJP leader says they will be happy with 15 seats.

    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/bjps-lok-sabha-strategy-ignore-rebellion-in-up-welcome-good-governance-in-other-states/381199/

    BJP’s Lok Sabha strategy: ignore rebellion in UP, welcome good governance in other states

    The party is losing its already weak support among Other Backward Castes (OBC) in the state. Caste leaders like Kalyan Singh, Om Prakash Singh and Vinay Katiyar are not seen in party meetings and speculations are rife about the differences emerging within the party among various caste groups.

    The BJP, therefore, has decided to ignore these leaders and shift its focus to cash on the issue of ‘good governance’ in BJP-led states namely Gujarat, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar and Uttarakhand. “We are trying to increase the Lok Sabha seats in other states, rather than wasting energy on cajoling the rebel leaders in UP, which may provide at most a few more seats,” said a senior party leader.

    He explained that due to strong presence of regional parties like the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) and the Samajwadi Party (SP), UP has almost lost its credentials of being the ‘seat of power’.

    The party will, therefore, focus on other states where it has performed well and a little effort can secure handsome gains. “We will be satisfied with whatever we gain in UP. We will be glad if our LS seat tally in the state increases to 15 from nine at present.”

  29. Sudhir says:

    http://dailypioneer.com/132107/Hindu-terror-Blame-UPA.html

    Article by Surya Prakash in Daily Pioneer About the Sadhvi Pragya episode

  30. prashant says:

    Few days back these MEDIA has informed that they are forming some committee that will act as WATCH DOG for MEDIA.

    IS THAT DOG SLEPPING ??????????

  31. prashant says:

    sO we have reach the climax of this government film as Mr.Ottavio Quattrochi will be Next BHARAT RATNA.

    Long Live Mr.Q

  32. kumar says:

    Except for The Pioneer, the rest of the English language media (print and TV) seem to be favoring the UPA regime and rushing to defend the p-secs.

    What is the scenario in vernacular media (print and TV)?

    In AP, there are 2 Telugu newspapers that are against the Congress govt at the state, but sound neutral about the UPA at the centre.The Telugu private TV channels are the same. I feel that in many cases, the vernacular media are becoming a bit lazy about presenting their views in a neutral and unbiased manner, and simply happy to translate stuff from the English language media.

    I am sure in Gujarat and other parts of North India, there would be some local newspapers that take an independent stand on national level issues.

    My point: Right wing thinking doesn’t seem to have much media support whether nationally or locally.At the local level, people are more interested in local issues and develop divergent opinions. But when it comes to national level issues like terrorism, foreign affairs etc. most Indians do not seem to understand the meaning of true rightist thinking.

    I spoke to a few village level political workers during my Deepavali holiday near my home town, which is a congress bastion.People seem to think that terrorism is bad but are not linking the UPA govt with increase in terror acts.They are all aware that BJP stands for Hindutva, but the feeling is that BJP is a divisive force and not a unifying force and that BJP talks about Hindutva only for the sake of votes.There is confusion about Hindutva, some knowledge that Narendra Modi has brought development for Gujarat, but no idea how.

    In my opinion, BJP and other rightist outfits have failed completely in communicating what they stand for; a failed PR machine; no support from maninstream media; opportunistic leaders, and the Vajpayee legacy of moving too much to the centrist position…these are probably some of the reasons.

    While I understand the need for real politic and the current inevitability of caste-based equations in winning elections, I feel such a casteist approach to elections has made the BJP no better than the Congress in many states.As long as BJP also looks at caste equations as a way of getting power, I don’t think they are capable of truly pushing the Hindutva agenda forward.It is in this context that I find the emergence of NaMo giving rise to some hope.

    (To be contd.)

  33. kumar says:

    (Contd.)

    To my knowledge, NaMo did not play the caste card in Gujarat.He may have considered the impact of these equations, but trusted the aam voter to get his core message and act accordingly.

    Can the BJP show similar courage in the rest of the country? Can we expect the BJP to spearhead a mass movement to unite all forces of national interest and Hindutva, and base the campaign on simple and effective messages? Does it have the cadre to do so? Can it attract the youth of the nation with its message?

    Can we create a situation where the discussions and thoughts on blogs such as this, get disseminated through vernacular print and TV media?

    We are a large and disorganized bunch of people. We feel that it is natural for all Indians to think about the Indian National Interest.So, we assume that we are speaking for the silent majority of this country. But we are talking among ourselves.We are not talking to the silent majority.The silent majority would support us, if we explain things clearly to them.

    Let me end with a digression which is relevant to some of the media issues we face:

    For the first 3 years of YSR being the CM in AP, the major Telugu daily ‘Eenaadu’, and its news channel (ETV2- Telugu News), and the 2nd most popular Telugu daily – Andhra Jyothy, continuously exposed all the corruption and misdeeds of the congress govt.YSR could not tolerate such sustained media antipathy.He pulled the owner of ETV (Ramoji Rao) into court cases, and harassed Andhra Jyothy as well. Inspite of that, these newspapers continued/continue to spit venom against YSR at every given opportunity.

    So, YSR’s son Jagan started their own newspaper- Saakshi. They invested in lot of infrastructure, hired very good creative staff and brought out the daily in March 2008.Except for the political coverage, which is obviously pro-congress, the newspaper is better than its competitors in terms of other informational and entertainment needs of the readers.Its Sunday Supplement is slick and reads like a Weekly magazine. Within 3 months, Saakshi has gone way past Eenadu and AJ in terms of circulation.I believe the CM’s son is now planning to repeat the magic in TV media by launching a news and entertainment channel.

    The BJP is in power in more states than the Congress.It can and it should launch a bouquet of channels and newspapers, and do a Saakshi, across the country.

    Can they do that?

  34. prashant says:

    so ATS has told court that Sadhvi is guilty bcoz “One Person” has heard conversation betweem Sadhvi and another person talking about Malegaon Blast.

    Now I am just wondering if Mr.Amar Singh & Mr.Ahmed PATEL be arrested and “Brain Mapping,NARCO Analysis” be done as BJP MP has alleged that they had been paid bribe by these guys to vote in favour of upa AND the witness Person definately is “SOHAIL HINDUSTANI”

    So what we have NO Video of Amar Sing meeting or Ahmed Patel conversation in tape as we have Witness in “Sohail Hindustani”

  35. arjun says:

    Exactly. What kind of evidence is this. Transcript of what someone has heard. This is surely a political opertion carried out by Diggy Raja. Remember the fake video Diggy Raja came up with during cah for vote scam.

  36. prashant says:

    Where is the watch DOG of MEDIA created by MEDIA to fool people???????????????????????

  37. [...] There are now 4 contradictory versions on the origin of the transcript produced in court in the Malegaon Blast Case. [...]

  38. blr_p says:

    How fortunate for the Sadhvi that there is no more POTA :)

    Otherwise heh, even suspicion of peripheral involvement would have attracted a far stiffer sentence.

  39. Indian says:

    What Congress is doing is travesty of justice and law. POTA is fine, only if it is not misused for political gains. In the 6 years of NDA ruled, it was never alleged that POTA has been misused for political gains. Congress has a long history of playing politics, it has used IB and RAW to spy on rival politician than let them do their work of managing National security. IG did it, openly during emergency, PVNR had the famous Jain diary containing everybody’s name, LKA and Madhao Rao Scindia, We had during this regime, national security advisor Naraynan actively bribing and blackmailing lawmakers for the confidence vote. I guess we should get rid of RAW, IB, NSA and diaries!!

    Don’t worry secularist, your day under justice would come. I hope Sadhvi did it and I hope many like her bloom in India!!

  40. blr_p says:

    POTA is fine, only if it is not misused for political gains.

    In a perfect world i would agree.

    But as you well know, we don’t live in such a world.

    Therefore banging up someone…
    - without incriminating evidence
    - for extended periods of time
    - without even being formally charged

    ..is nothing but an assault on basic rights of the citizens.

  41. ramu says:

    Let cops investigate and we will see if they have any evidence or not. If it takes too long and ATS can’t prove anything, the only damage is to the Congress!

    And like in every case cops come up with, whether involving Muslims or HIndus, its good to have some skeptcism.

  42. [...] Offstumped has decided to ammend its stance on this case to refrain from passing judgement on the day to day developments of this Case till it [...]

  43. anil bali says:

    MALAGAON BLAST CASE AND INVESTIGATION.

    This investingation is a total fabrication and influenced by vested politicians and aginst those who speak of Nation, sing Vandematram, Hindu Saints and now Indian Army. What has happened to Mohammad Ali and other persons named by him ealier in this case. As stated by DGP P. S. Pasricha on 27th November that Shabbir Batterywala has send Muzammi to Pakistan and 15 KG RDX was transported by him and was stored in his Godown. What happened to other 30 persons named in Malegaon case. RDX was planted on bicycles how the motor cycles with rubbed chassis number came in. Why the case is not broadly investigated and test are not carried on in similar way to the earlier accused persons. We should have confidence in investigating agencies, but there seems to be no point to believe them. Every one in Maharashtra knows about the Mafia there and with alleged many Blasts and killings carried out by them successfully. Their money is invested in business, films, and are having political links. Talgi 30,000 crore stamp paper scan named as many 67 Bahubals of politics, but these agencies carried out no Narco Test or enquiry against them and finally Telgi confessed all to settle the case and got meager imprisonment and fine. The government at centre is directed by Bofors
    Scan family run under Mr. Clean Singh who managed majority by giving portfolios, CM post & by bribing MP’s.( 3 crores bribe displayed on parliament floor), and is further supported by Chara-Ghotla (950 crores scan) Party. No Norco or any other test is done in any of the above accused or to any other Terrorist. No one from 30 arrested for Jama Masjit Two Blast on 14th April 2006 was put to Narco Test. Similarily for Mecca Masjit Blast Hyderabad (AP) on 18th May 2007 , Shri Syed Ahmed Bukhari and 19 others were arrested but they approached Prime Minister on 22nd May and he helped them personally and case was closed. I wish Indian youth will rise and come forward to send all these old Pithamahas to permanent sleep and shape the nation themself.

  44. ks says:

    this is the start for the election campaign for assembly election and will go on till the loksabha election nothing concrete only information from so called reliable sources and shady sting operations.

  45. [...] latest in the Malegaon saga is the assertion by the Maharashtra ATS is that Lt Col Purohit procured 60kgs of RDX from Jammu [...]

  46. BJP can do this and quite possibly have been involed in some other blasts in country, sangh parivar already is so much fundamentalists that they dont see any thing apart from their interests.

    all extremists and fundamentalists groups related with Sangh parivaar like bagrang dal RSS should be banned

  47. [...] In view of the shocking charges made against the ATS by the Sadhvi and the fact that the present investigating team has lost all moral authority, [...]

  48. [...] of course the Malegaon malefactors surfaced and its been a case of role reversal or was it [...]

  49. [...] a group of individuals with mere knowledge of terrorist activities dont make for good copy or politics. Hence this attempt at probing deep into their background and establishing tertiary links to [...]

  50. [...] Hemant Karkare may have become a lightning rod for his role as ATS Chief between his role in the Malegaon blasts case and his subsequent death during the Mumbai Attacks. While the Muslim Vote Bank power brokers have [...]

  51. seadog4227 says:

    I have just re-read this issue looking for updates; still none available on the net.
    Would any agency would have kept quiet if clinching evidence was available?
    Congress and NCP politicians peeping over the shoulders of the ATS would have jumped for joy and run all the way to Mummy with their findings.
    On the other hand, when the BJP returns to power, we could have a very interesting situation indeed!
    The Congress rag TOI has reported that Col.Purohit has “confessed” to other blasts as well. The ATS claims Southern Command has not handed over information pertaining to Col.Purohit; the Southern Command claims it has provided all the requisite information……

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