Dear Commissioner of Police, New Delhi
It has come to Offstumped’s notice that a motley group of Jhola bearing drifters, losers and vagabonds have trespassed a crime scene in New Delhi by their own admission.
Shabnam Hashmi, Satya Sivaraman, Manisha Sethi, Tanweer Fazal, Arshad Alam & Pallavi Deka
Offstumped finds it hard to believe that the Delhi Police would have lowered the security perimeter around this crime scene to allow vagabonds bearing?jholas to trespass a site of an anti-terrorist operation nevertheless one has to take the words of the above perps at their face value and assume they are guilty of trespassing.
While your department investigates why and how such a trespassing occured, Offstumped would like to ask a few more questions of your department.
1. It appears that the perps in question have full and intimate knowledge that the information shared by the alleged terrorists to the Delhi Police for verification was “personal” and “accurate”. Offstumped would like to ask of the Police Department how between a Saturday evening and a Sunday night a motley group of Jhola bearing vagabonds could confirm this. It points to one of 2 possibilities. These perps knew beforehand what information was shared or alternatively these perps have breached the security of the Police Department records to obtain this information.
Either way Offstumped would like to demand that these perps be investigated.
2. The perps also claim to have accurate and complete knowledge of access routes in and out of the crime scene and seem to have knowledge of when exactly the anti-terror operation started and when it ended to claim that no alleged terrorist could have escaped during the operation. This raises the question what inside track these perps had on the duration of the operation and knowledge of the movement of individuals from the crime scene. Offstumped would like to demand that the police interrogate the perps on this.
3. These perps want to know if your slain colleague the late Inspector was overconfident while claiming that his death was mysterious. Perhaps an intimate encounter with Inspectors of the Task Force is in order here so these perps could gain first hand knowledge of the confidence level of Inspectors in dealing with terrorists. It would also be in order to demystify how someone could possibly die of bullet wounds. Offstumped requests you to kindly arrange for a close encounter of the fourth estate kind to for these perps benefit.
4. These perps ask a question of your department based on “some reports” of police vandalism. Doesnt it strike you that all references to the terrorists are “alleged” while all references to acts of vandalism by “police” are vague, not factual but conclusive and not “alleged”. Offstumped would like to demand that these perps be interrogated on what prior knowledge do they have of the slain terrorists that they are ambivalent of their guilt but are pretty damn sure about the guilt of the policemen.
5. The perps have expressed immense disappointment that the alleged terrorists did not use sophisticated weapons to strike at the police while preferring to use primitive and not so well known firearms. Offstumped can understand their disappointment and would like to request your department to conduct these encounters in a more dignified manner as in the good old days when the fugitives were given the choice of weapon and a place and time of their choosing. Perhaps some target practice would also be in order here before the shootout, Offstumped would like to recommend some fine Jholas for the same.
In closing Offstumped would like to highlight there are many loose lends in the perps claims and it is important that the Delhi Police conduct a full and uncompromising inquiry without any inhibitions on these Jhola bearing drifters, losers and vagabonds to answer the above questions and address any other questions on their links with these terrorists.
A concerned aam admi
Filed under: War on Terror, betrayal of aam admi
Sorry offtopic but Sewa Bharati is doing great work in Bihar flood relief. However, this has to be a sustained effort and for that they need funds. Please be generous and send money. In vedic dharma one is supposed to donate 3-10 percent of income to charity. Please donate as much as you can for this sacred land
http://www.sewausa.org/video-bihar-rescue-amp-relief-work
A refreshingly positive article about NaMo and Gujarat (without any negative slaps) in India Today:
http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15934§ionid=22&issueid=31&Itemid=1
Setting an example
@ yossarin
As someone who is skeptical about the Congress government’s motivations, does it not strike you as odd that 2 days after Patil was criticised by everyone and was under pressure, terrorists have been conveniently discovered and killed?
Don’t tell me its not a possibility. The death of MCS shows it possibly is not.
I personally don’t think it was cooked up, but in no country can you ever tell with confidence that under such circumstances, governments are capable of pretty stunning stuff.
@ramu
infact i too raised that question and if you agree the answer could be that “Intelligence agency may be keeping track of them….but NOT GETTING GO-AHEAD FROM pOLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT.BUT after Delhi blast they got it and cracked the case in 2 days…..
well just a thinking…..
ramu and prashant,
That is very much possible.
Before the August 25, 2007 serial blasts at Hyderabad, police had advance information of men and materials settling in Hyd for a terror strike as early as in March 2007. Most of these guys, however, got holed up in the old city area. Police wanted to make preventive arrests but our Congress Government said NO because of fear of “communal violence” (in other words, Muslim anger.) We know everything that happened later on 25th August.
This is how Congress Governments sacrifice the lives of innocent people for their own electoral advantage. Its time someone finds a vaccine to eradicate the Congress Disease.
@ prashant
even that could be right.
but thing is, while we have our opinions, we should not jump to a conclusion either. In matters like these there are often lots of games going on – but sometimes its straightforward too. Its difficult to distinguish it and say that its true 100 % one way or the other. I personally always wait for a court verdict despite what I think and feel. People who work in IB etc will tell you the kind of crazy stuff that happens.
wait for Court Verdict???????
We know in Shah Bano case
We know in AFZAL case
@ramu
Are u aware that wat was the supreme court verdict on HINDUTVA?????
but still YOUR type people call HINDUTVA a COMMUNAL
So what if one is communal. Muslims are communal, Christians are communal. So what if Hindus are communal. In fact they need to be communal. Nobody needs a certificate from Commies and Jholawallahs that one is not communal. They should prove how they are not communal by being anti Hindu.
Btw, Rahul Gandhi spewing garbage. He does not know that POTA came after Kandhahar.
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/sep/24pota.htm
No need for POTA-like law: Rahul
Rahul Gandhi [Images] lashed out at the Bharatiya Janata Party for demanding a strong law like POTA to deal with terrorists.
Addressing a press conference in Jhalandar on Wednesday, the Congress general secretary said there was no need to have a law that failed to deliver during the National Democratic Alliance tenure.
Rahul, who is on a road show in Punjab, said the membership of the party was open to everyone.
“POTA is a failed law. Kandahar happened when POTA was there. You don’t need a law like POTA to counter terrorism. Our Prime Minister Manmohan Singh [Images] has done this without compromising the security of the nation,” he said.
His three-day visit ends on Wednesday. He started his trip from Amritsar [Images], then went to Bhatinda and to Jhalandar.
Let’s not give space to minions like Rahul. Media is full of Rahul and talking about his marriage bla bla bla. WHAT THE HECK!!!
About topic, I see some conspiracies finally starting to work. HR Activists rallying for Muslims, some MPs rallying too, Christians being attacked – would dalits be the next target? – so as to gang up Dalit, Muslims, Christians and HR activists against Hindus to project whole of India and the Hindu majority as evil and oppressing the minorities??
http://www.itgo.in/index.php?option=com_registration&exist=yes&task=homevideo&videoid=925
The poor kid and his MSM doesn’t know that Anti-terror laws has nothing to do with the Airport security and that the Kandahar hijack happend in Nepal. Akshardam was a fidayeen attack which even an Israel or US couldn’t have stopped.
kid?????????
He is 38 an age in which his father was Father of 2 kids.
I think that the recent Bangalore attacks on churches smacks of crass opportunism as practiced by Congress and JD(S). It is not wholly out of reach to say that they could have done the acts and put the blame on BD even though Mahendra Kumar had clarified that they had no grouse against the Catholic Church and Christians.
BTW Rahul baba also did not know an answer to a complex question about the Nuke deal which was asked by a student during his Punjab tour and our would be PM after grappling with the query threw the ball back into the student’s court by asking him to find out the answer himself.
Such is the calibre of our would be want to be PM
We have heard of so many policemen “sacrificing” their lives to combat terrorism.
A few points need to be noted:
1. How is it that these so called encounters never take place when Bajrang Dal members are brewing their bombs?
2. What is common to Daya Nayak, Sachin Vanza, Pradeep, Satyavir Singh Rathi, L N Rao, and Rajbir Singh – DISMISSED FROM SERVICE!! They were all highly decorated just as Mohan C Sharma was, and were highly felicitated by all and sundry- till the truth came out. I think it is time that the media stopped working as lap dogs of the establishment and started doing their own digging and snooping aroungd to uncover the truth behind these sordid encounters.
3. If a cop goes for a serious encounter he goes prepared, if he goes to eliminate some people or to win a medal or promotion, he goes without a bullet proof vest, because he knows that his victim poses no threat.
4. Why were the bodies and faces of the two boys killed in the alleged encounter covered when they were taken down?
5. Why does the autopsy report mention that the two boys suffered bullet wound injury and 20 additional injuries to the face, head and other parts of the body? where did those injuries come from?
6. while we all openly admit that there is scarcely an institution in India more reviled than the police for its obvious brutality, bullying nature, corruption and complete blatant disregard for the law- how is it that suddenly they become our heroes the moment they gun down any Muslim?
Offstumped,
PLEASE stop calling them jholla-wallahs. They are NOT. Jholla-wallahs are leftwingers of the 80’s and 90’s, and they were either presumably not moneyed enough to possess good personal accessories like bags or carefully cultivated an impression of impoverishment in keeping with their “pro-poor” politics. The current lot of leftists (rather, leftist-Islamists) are flush with cash, don’t carry jholas, and the female kind of them are in fact dressed in expensive fabindia “ethnic” attire.
Hello Ramu,
>>As someone who is skeptical about the Congress government’s motivations, does it not strike you as odd that 2 days after Patil was criticised by everyone and was under pressure, terrorists have been conveniently discovered and killed?
The Delhi cops brought a Gujarat blasts accused in custody from Ahmedabad and he led them to the terrorist hideout. And the Delhi cops did this AFTER Delhi blasts, depsite having prior warning from Modi himself. Why didn’t Delhi act sooner? Because, as you pointed out, Congress government. Imagine terrorists getting killed _before_ the blasts. Would a Congress government want that?
If some of you here didn’t know, the claim of “policie verification” made by Hashmi etal has been proven wrong. In fact the terrorists forged the documents!
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Delhi/Caretaker_of_Batla_House_flat_arrested_for_forgery/articleshow/3510884.cms
Sachin Tendulkar better mind his cricket. We heard enough nonsense from the conspiracy theorists already.
But Prashanth He still is a Kid intellectually.
Genetically All his Nervous system seem to have his Mom’s.
Biggest sleeper cell in North Block: Arun Jaitley
NEW DELHI: In its hardest attack on the UPA government, BJP has said the “biggest sleeper cell in the country is in North Block (home ministry) as it is sleeping when terror activities take place.”
Taking his party’s ‘Save India’ campaign to a new pitch, BJP general secretary Arun Jaitley suggested that the Congress should “initiate honest discussions about the current crisis with all political parties and other stake holders.”
read here.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Biggest_sleeper_cell_in_North_Block_Arun_Jaitley/articleshow/3519924.cms
I’d say everybody in the ‘coalition supporting terrorism’ Congressi baba, Jholawalah, dhotiwalah, topiwala, commiwalah, sabrangwallah should speak out forcefully against such an evil law as POTA, it can only work in it’s favor. it’s the biggest favor they can do to the hindutva movement. I’d say jaitleyji, Advaniji, Modiji should go about criticizing UPA, the countercurrents douchebags, the ‘human rights’ overground terrorists for not supporting POTA creating even a more strong backlash from “coaltion for terror’ against POTA. We really need their support.
Rahul Baba said POTA has failed and WE need Stronger Law.
Rahul Baba WE welcome it.
good news…
http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/sep/24ahd.htm
ironically all 5 r from Azamgarh?!
5 MORE INNOCENT EDUCATED MUSLIM YOUTH ARRESTED BY SECULAR GOVERNMENT MUMBAI POLICE……
PLEASE STOP OR OTHERWISE OUR PM WIILL NOW HAVE SLEEP DISORDER FOREVER.
TEESTA PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HELP THESE INNOCENT YOUTH.
PLEASE TAKE THE HELP OF SHABANA AZMI AS ALL THOSE INNOCENT YOUTH ARE FROM AZAMGARH FROM WHERE SHABANA BELONGS.
IN FACT SHABANA KNEW THEM WELL FROM CHILDHOOD AND RESPECT HER.
THEY DECIDED TO BOMB MUMBAI BCOZ SHABANA JI WAS NOT GIVEN A FOURTH FLAT OF HER CHOICE IN MUMBAI……
This is terrible! I mean before you had rabid communals like Modiji arresting innocent, misguided, poor, unemployed muslim youth, callling them terrorists but now you have muslims like mumbai commisioner hasan ghafor arresting ‘innocents’. What has the world come to? sarc ofcourse.
I salute you mr Gafoor!
Somebody please get some sleeping pills to mr manmohan singh, ‘innocent’ terrorists arrested in ahmedbad blasts, alleged terrorists killed for delhi blasts, ‘poor unemployeds’ arrested in mumbai. Stop this nonsense, this poor man is beyond losing sleep now, he will have a nervous breakdown.
If azamgarh is terroristan, shoudlnt shabana azmi really be shabana terrori?
Junior is making some noise that I saw on Vineet’s channel and I kinda started laughing my ass off. I called Vineet and said ‘Are you gone crazy man?. You are covering that nuthead day and night. What’s next? When he goes to the toilet and how big the crap he discharges? No wonder my other friends make toilet jokes on your media house. I mean I know I’m high now, but still I could understand what that guy was telling. He is a complete numbnut. Period. He doesn’t know India and hence, needed to discover it.” Vineet did some old bla bla bla … madam still wants us to project him as future PM bla bla bla… Yes, those old shits of reminding us how to run a media channel. I hate this.
Yossarin…
This is what sticks up my craw all the time cops make arrests.
Wht the F do they to do this god dammn live on TV….cant they bar, beat, tear gas these morons?????
Why cant they investigate thoroughly and then open their mouths.
Not just Delhi police even MUmbai police has let me down today, did you look at the crowd behind the CP/ACP’s?
What a farce?
Secessionist movesments in the US.Well I guess India is not the only country with a bunch of idiots
http://www.vtcommons.org/
Guys, A MUST SEE ARTICLE FROM THIS WEBSITE.. I AM SPEECHLESS :O
http://www.countercurrents.org/ilaiah310808.htm
This basterd is openly calling for forging ties among anti national and anti hindu elements in our country.
I call myself agnostic, I hardly visit temples and my culture and religion allows me to critique any aspect of it. I condemn cast system, superstition BUT what this guys is saying is utter bullshit. This is the most vitriolic attack on our culture and religion that is based on half truths which are further exaggerated by his chicanery and sinister motives.
This website must be thoroughly investigated by a sting operation to start with.
Hindu priest shot dead by LTTE.. Readers comments are interesting. People are realizing that LTTE is christian evangelism to destroy dharmic religions
http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/13354
@Rationalist
Ilaiah is working with Dalit freedom network in colorado US. Most members of the Dalit Freedom network are white evangelists. That pretty much says it all. I am immune to his garbage. The key point is that Hindus need to be educated about these folks’s background and support
http://kafila.org/2008/09/22/a-little-less-melodrama-and-a-lot-more-forensics/
Some more conspiracy theories. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Yoss: You and your readers will find this post thought-provoking:
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/09/25/jamia-dangerous-cocktail/
No one respects Kancha Ilaiah in his home state.. In fact many of his own community members avoid him. I think Rationalist is trying to get him some respect by quoting him here
ban ramu from the forum he is trying to divert our attention from the main topic
Nishka, this is regarding ur first post on this topic…. “In vedic dharma one is supposed to donate 3-10 percent of income to charity.”
For God’s sake don’t bring in this vedas or puranas to ask for donations.Why do u want the sanction of Vedas/puranas or religion to do a humanitarian work. Why can’t u ask on Humanitarian grounds? Why do u want to degrade to the level of fanatical Islamists who talk of Zakat and the likes ??? Are u trying to get even with them? don’t u have anybody else to compare urself with?? Think as a human being, think as an Indian not as a religious interpreter.
Yoss, leave aside all ur claims of not being associated with any party. The schisms are so deep u can’t escape taking sides or even sleeping with them. U have to tell ur party guys that these thugs and useless scoundrels in BajrangDal should have a minimum common sense of not attacking any and every Christian. Every Christian is not a missionary, but every missionary is a Christian some with an agenda of conversions and some without. You need the support of Christians, Sikhs and other religious minorities if u want to tackle the growing the menace of Muslim separatism (in the name of Ummah). With these reckless actions u will isolate a good section of moderate Christians who have favorable views of BJP or its allies. Venkat ur point is very apt.
Already the dumbfucks from Bajrang dal have exposed their militantistic character by blowing themselves into pieces in Kanpur. It’s just a matter of time before the media starts making mountain out of molehill. Are ur friends in the right side of the political spectrum cultivating deepshit and fuck ass taliban like scumbags in India who would then decide when u sleep, when u wake, whom u go around with, whom u make love with and how many times? Enough is enough of this bullshit, don’t spoil ur chances of coming back to power in 09.
COMMENTS FROM SACHIN WHICH ARE COPY PASTE FROM COUNTERCURRENTS.ORG HAVE BEEN DELETED.
SACHIN MAKE A POINT IF YOU HAVE OR POINT TO ARTICLES BY PROVIDING URLs. NO PROPOGANDA PLEASE.
Ok…Hmmm Lets see now who did the Mehrauli Blasts???
1. I thought the “Masterminds” are all dead or in police lock up…
2. I wonder who would want to plant a bomb near a masjid/idgah at Mehrauli, Malegaon, Hyderabad Charminar
3. wonder who was making bombs in Kanpur when they blew up the guys ass to bits??
hmmm got me thinking
AND ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUS ABOUT THE “PROPAGANDA” stuff??? really serious? Never read so much tripe and propaganda under one site than on this one. Especially coming from those claiming to be:
The Indian National Interest is a non-partisan (NON PARTISAN should read statusquoist) community of individuals committed to economic freedom (Agents of free market till it crashes- then advocates of tax payers money for bail outs) , realism in international relations (real-politikers- meaning no ethics, no values, go wiht the flow…) , an open society (oPEN SOCIETY HA HA HA) , a culture of tolerance and good governance ( Tolerance??? Ya till the time you are not a Muslim or a Dalit).
Its efforts are also directed towards increasing public awareness and education on strategic affairs and public policy ( YOU guys should help Bush out now since the US of A is in such a downward spiral- the empire is collapsing)
You got to figure this one out, revolution has a romantic appeal – one thing you can never understand or experience, since you will always be sucking up to your corporate bosses, playing caddy at their golf afternoons, moving from one meeting to another, desperate to make your millions and dying of a heart attack at 50 from corporate stress, cut throat competition, screwing your own friends and their wives to rise up the ladder….(free market)
and so far as Jholla wallahs are concerned- they get much more sex than you do for sure, their babes are much prettier in their fabindia ethic dresses – tough luck you guys, women never went in for your anal types. Except the sado machoist ones.
Off stumped may be “neutral” but they love the cops, the system, the administration, officialdom, free market…but dont get them wrong, ok? they are “neutral” just as cops were in Nithari, Arushi murder, Gujarat, as they are each and every day with rickshaw wallas, with industrial workers, with poor dalits, I know they are neutral. Of course the adminstration and government is neutral, it treats people with money education, power, politicians, bureaucrats, judges, common man, all of them the same. Of course it does. I agree. The system is neutral. Only Kashmiri Jehadis, jholla wallas, Naxalites, Muslims, the poor and a few others are the problem, the government is has been and will always be as neutral as Off stumped is.
All babu or politician or cop only speak the truth. How dare people like me call them compulsive, pathalogical liars..how dare I!!
At least Off stumped could have gone to the site of the firing and checked out the facts, done soem digging around before lapping up the stuff being thrown to it? If it claims to be independent – then this is the least it should do to prove its neutrality.
Now even the media which went on overdrive on denouncing young men who got killed in the so called enounter as terrorists are suddenly running for cover trying to nurse and hide their whipped asses when all they reported is falling apart. Every print journo is punching holes so big in the “official” version that it looks like its a target been used in a firing range.
End of the day if Offstumped claims itself to have any idea about the law of the land in India, the constitution provides that a person shall; be deemed innocent unless proved guilty. It is a fundamental right that all people of India residing here (including “terrorists”, foriegners, Muslims, Offstumpeders, Hindus, women, Christians etc etc) – all of them have the fundamental right to legal recourse.
Now if you dont like the law and want it to be that if the police says someone is guilty unless proved innocent it can only mean three things:
1. You are a fascist who hates to be accountable and held responsible for his or her actions and refuses to pay the price for living in a democracy
2. You have a huge back up of police / administration “contacts” (similar to a fascist)
3. You are a bloody fool, maybe your name is George W Bus
Thanks Sachin for the rant, it reveals far more than it glosses over.
If this is the best you could come up with, this rant, and the only thing you can take pride is the amount of sex you have
best of luck mate, you have Offstumped’s sympathy.
If all you can read in the many many lines I have written as a “rant” means simply that you do not have the means to address any issues that differ to yours, except by being dismissive, then I feel that possibly the strategy of Offstumped is simply to act like an ostrich, if you dont look at the problem it will simply disappear. The point is that I have a difference of opinion and I have posted them with facts and details but the only response is to be dismissive. I have seen this pattern across Offstumped – what you dont like, dismiss it by casting aspersions on the person’s character and the kind of person he/she is. Like Shabnam Hashmi, look I am not a fan of hers either, but my disagreement with her is political – not personal and whether she is a jhoola walla or not. In the entire “so called criticism” of the left etc. there is only lampooning-not an iota of any conceptual, intellectual or factual disagreement. But seriously Offstumped sounds like the mouth piece for the bureaucracy-police-administration-BJP-Congress-Advani and co. No where does it appear to be “independent” or “neutral”. It appears as if the only correct version of truth-reality and understanding of our society is what the police tells us or the administration and a handful of other politicians tell us. I strongly disagree with that. Even on the issue of “jholla wallas2 – what is wrong with wearing Fabindia clothes? its ok, not a big deal. But possibly you can focus on a political difference with their perception of the world and events. But I feel sorry for you guys at Offstumped, because you mistake your slanging matches for an intellectual. It is not I who is raving and ranting, unfortunately it is you guys. You have simply nothing new to say except protect the status quo. I think I will leave you all in peace and you can breathe a sigh of relief that I am signing out of here permanently.
By the way, Yossarin Good sex was not the only thing I wrote about but you and your wicked jealous brain could not focus on anything else……….and finally since when does good sex deserve sympathy?? ??
Well Yoss boss, if it makes you feel any better I can see how you are giving Sachin piles and high BP. I just see that he has commented, see how long it is, have a chuckle and move on. Btw keep up the good work. Even if you cannot make this turd change his view (maybe he is a TSPian), at least I feel better that whenever he goes to paki… in the morning he feels pain, thanks much to your blog.
rgds,
fanne
@43
>>…I think I will leave you all in peace and you can breathe a sigh of relief that I am signing out of here permanently.
Phew! Thank god for li’l mercies…better late then never![:D]
@ Sachin,
You said “I have seen this pattern across Offstumped – what you dont like, dismiss it by casting aspersions on the person’s character and the kind of person he/she is.”
Obviously you’re also part of the crowd at offstumped, because you made your comments on this blog. And it’s weird how you don’t recognise that you hate yourself! Because you also make this comment about Yossarin
“By the way, Yossarin Good sex was not the only thing I wrote about but you and your wicked jealous brain could not focus on anything else…”
The least you could have done was not fall prey to your own demons and hold yourself to better standards that you give the others here credit for! Can you explain why you stooped to making personal attacks on Yossarin’s brain?
@ Sachin
Abhi tak gaye nahi kya?
FRUSTO!!
the jehadi types hate everyone, christains to hindus to mulims and all these religions have their jehadi types.