Justice Rajinder Sachar has penned an op-ed in the Times of India titled “Human Rights first“. The below is a rejoinder from Offstumped to this op-ed.
The retired Justice of the famed report on social conditions of Muslims, makes broadly 4 points.
#1 – The BJP is trying to score a political point
#2 – TADA was bad to begin with, hence provisions similar to it in POTA are bad as well
#3 – NHRC opposed POTA
#4 – New York Times opposed the Patriot Act
#5 – SC observed that Human Rights are important
#6 – Any new legislation must be opposed
The first point needs no rejoinder, it is very clear that there is only one political formation in the nation today that has taken the War on Terror seriously and it is the BJP.
As far as his second point on TADA ?goes he goes to great lengths to quote statistics on TADA but the main point he makes is that TADA allowed for confesions to police be admissible, POTA wants the same. TADA was bad so POTA is also bad. He goes?to quote the Supreme Court on Police brutality
but offers no concrete data to make his case that the provisions within TADA on the specific aspect of confessions made to police were misused to a degree or ineffective to explain the ineffectiveness or vicissitudes of TADA.
His third point on the NHRC needs no rejoinder, Offstumped has documented on multiple occassions how ideologically biased the NHRC has been and how selective it has been in its activism. its opinion on POTA frankly is about as objective as those of the motley group of jhola bearing drifters, losers and vagabonds that abound countercurrents.org.
His fourth point on the New York Times and patriot act is laughable. The United States has not had a single terrorist attack on its soil since 9-11 while India has lost count of the number of attacks since POTA was repealed. Not to speak of the hypocrisy of this breed of psuedo intellectuals who scoff at American Imperialism but have no qualms of seeking ideological guidance from the New York Times.
His fifth point on the Supreme Court is duplicitous. He initially claims that Supreme Court upheld the supremacy of Human Rights over everything else. He then goes on to quote the Supreme Court in which the court says no such thing. It merely emphasises that Human Rights are important and that Government must not do anything to violate the Consitution.
His last point makes it clear that he has nothing constructive to offer by way of suggestions for how the War on Terror must be executed. He once again reminds us that his breed of psuedo intellectuals thrive on negativisim and have no positive agenda to offer. If he really cared for national interest he would have done better than stake out a political position on this issue to lay out atleast 2 alternatives which to him are superior legal means to deal with Terrorism.
Offstumped’s Challenge to Justice Rajinder Sachar
Sir if you claim such moral indignation on the draconian provisions of POTA and also claim such legal acumen on the effectiveness of existing laws to deal with Terrorism, pray why havent you pointed a single instance in which existing legal provisions have been effectively used to root out terror.
If Sir you cannot provide such instances, why is it that you have not offered any positive criticisms on where the existing legal provisions are failing in dealing with Terrorism and how pray they maybe fixed within the existing legal framework.
If you and your breed of intellectuals, activists whatever you call yourselves have nothing positive or constructive to offer to the victims of Terrorism or to the citizens of this nation who care about National Interest, could you please take your activism elsewhere and spare us this sanctimony.
India has always been guided by Dharma and will continue to do so as it defends its strategic interests in this asymmetric war waged on it by non-state actors.?
Filed under: Constituent Assembly, Dharma-debates, War on Terror, betrayal of aam admi
Human rights first – is perfectly fine, but then are they not supposed to be SAME for all humans? will the pseudo secs follow this first….
Also upholding human rights is till there are human beings…. but why talk of human rights for those who take human life?
human rights, law etc comes into being when a set of human beings align to a nation. Once national law is formed it includes human rights… so national law … nation is supreme. When you become a citizen of a nation the constitution gives you certain rights… but … the rights also have associated duty…pseudo secs only talk of rights why not the duty as well….
I guess if NHRC speaks for the rights of these so-called ‘humans’, which as is obvious to even a layman now that those ‘humans’ are in fact terrorists & traitors, isn’t it high-time an orgainsation that speaks for the victims of terror be set up? Rajinder Sachar, with all due respect, is nothing but a crony and joined @ hip pal of the likes of Khushwant Singh & his Candle-holding-At-Wagah border buddy Kuldeep Nayyar.
All these ‘human right activists’ have a hissy fit whenever either terrorist & fundamentalist Muslims or Christians are deemed responsible for nefarious acts committed by them, I have never seen NHRC speaking up for Hindus fighting for their rights & against persecution in Kashmir, NE, tribal belt or even as has been the case in recent terrorist attacks – accept it that majority of whom perished in there were Hindus!
Rajinder Sachar should go and settle in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, then only he’ll come to realize the ‘real’ human rights…I dunno why & how these morons even get so much space in media to spill out their plan & support for breaking up or balkanizing India!
Don’t the dead and maimed victim have human rights. Shouldn’t their rights be protected by bringing the culprits responsible for that act to justice. Or is it that only terrorists have human rights and not their victims?
Thanks,
Indian
Terrorists are not Humans.
This is hilarious.. Old news but how low will Congress stoop. BTW Sheila D is a Xian
Congress-Christian Combine Forms Fradulent Charity in Delhi
Posted October 20, 2005
Organiser
October 23, 2005
The influence of RSS associated organisations and their growing service activities has led Christian missionaries and Congress leaders to panick so much that they have started misleading people by floating fake organisations. The Congress-Christian combine formed a fake Sewa Bharati in Delhi and announced the holding of a public function under its banner on September 18. But it was caught before it could cause any damage to the reputation of the original Sewa Bharati. It is a fact that Sewa Bharati, Delhi has earned a good respect among people living in slum and J.J. clusters with its service activities as well as with the programmes to uplift weaker section of the society. Such welfare activities have made people aware enough to stop entry of Christian missionaries in their localities. The missionary activists, with the help of some Congress leaders, formed an organisation, Sewa Bharati Sanstha, Delhi. Over 95 per cent its office bearers are Christians and the remaining are local Congress leaders. They published an advertisement in several newspapers regarding a function at Punjabi Bagh stadium on September 18. Delhi Chief Minister, Sheila Dikshit, Congress leaders Oskar Fernandes, Dr Karna Singh, Sajjan Kumar, Sandip Dikshit and film actor turned politician Govinda were scheduled to participate in the function.
The event alerted Sewa Bharati activists. They staged a massive protest in Punjabi Bagh on September 18. Following the protest none of these Congress leaders turned up. Sewa Bharati has also initiated legal action against the fraud organisation.
World christian database says that India has 66 MM christians contrary to <30 MM in the Indian census.. Insteresting
Question for Justice Ghacchar,
You talk about Human Rights First. Let us take your argument. What about the Human Right of the persons who are dead because of terrorists? Is it not the Human Right of those killed to live and support their families?
If you agree, then the current institutional framework has failed in protecting the Human Rights of those who were killed in bomb blasts. Hence, the institutional framework has to be refined to protect the Human Right of the people of India , i.e. the Right to Live peacefully.
Human Rights must come first.
Indian citizens have been terrorized by the violence unleashed by these terrorist organizations.
Human Rights First – should be exactly what the nations policy should be; the rights for all humans in India to live safely and securely.
It is the rights of Indian citizens for security that must come under the same umbrella as “human rights”, should they not?
A right for every Indian citizen to be able to live safely without the fear of being blown to bits by organizations sheltered by the enemies of India – within and without.
Yes – Human Rights must come first!
The ’sickular’ crowd @ its very best:
These are the people, whose ‘human rights’ Rajinder Sachar seems to be soooo worried about!
Conversions: Faith in the closet
Shreerang Godbole
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=125
excerpts..
How does one explain the curious paradox of an apparent spurt in conversion activities and a static, sometimes even declining Christian share in the population?
The answer becomes obvious when one takes the trouble of studying Christian strategy and statistics – statistics provided by authoritative mission documents. The 2001 report states that of the estimated 1.88 billion professing Christians worldwide, an estimated 124 million or 6.2% are crypto-Christians or those who conceal their faith.
Crypto-Christians are numerous in places where Christianity gets a taste of the maltreatment it usually metes out to others. Thus, Chinese law requires all churches to be registered with government-run Christian associations. Members of so-called underground churches are imprisoned, ‘re-educated,’ and sometimes executed.The existence, indeed proliferation, of crypto-Christians in India is a fact acknowledged by the Church. The World Christian Trends (2001) has placed the number of persons affiliated to the Church in India at 62243546 or 6.1%. In short, the number of Christians in India is nearly thrice the official census figure! The document places the share of crypto-Christians in the total Christian population at a staggering 62%! in 2002, the American mission agency Global Mapping International asked Patrick Johnstone, author of Operation World, a prayer handbook which documents demographics and mission activity in many countries, to list the seven most encouraging trends of the 1990’s. “The astonishing and mostly undocumented growth of the church in India – the official numbers (2.34% Christians in 1991) are far lower than the truth, deliberately hiding the true extent of Christianity in the nation. The true figures are certainly far more than double, and look like only the beginning. The ‘untouchable’ Dalits have started leaving Hinduism, which could lead to an immense growth of Indian churches” was Johnstone’s gleeful reply. So why do so many Christians in India conceal their faith, given that the rulers are Christian-friendly? The present Constitutional provision that limits the benefits available to Scheduled Castes only to Hindus (including Sikhs and Buddhists) is a major hurdle.
Dr. Shreerang Godbole is a Pune-based endocrinologist, social activist and author. He has contributed in making http://www.savarkar.org
Guess…it didn’t took long for the ’sickular’ crowd to show its true colors….
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‘We Want To Contribute To Usher In A Terror-Free India’
http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20080922&fname=terror&sid=1
But ‘we reject the Batla-house style of encounter killings. We fail to understand why the alleged terrorists were not caught alive. People in the area believe that it was a fake encounter, that it was a one-sided and pre-planned affair’ ….
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BTW, this statement indeed proves to be the icing on the cake:
“…We demand that whenever police undertakes a combing or search operation in any Muslim locality, at least one third of the raiding force must consist of officers belonging to the minority community, and minority elders of the affected area should be taken into confidence and made part of the enquiry and interrogation teams. Such operations must not look like a patently anti-Muslim exercise. This will restore some credibility to the discredited police and security agencies….”
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WOW…simply WOW!…/sar
http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20080920&fname=raman&sid=1&pn=1
B Raman
The events in New Delhi since the terrorist strike by the so-called Indian Mujahideen (IM) on September 13, 2008, which killed 26 innocent civilians, should be a matter of concern for all right-thinking Indians.
The pent-up anger of large sections of our society over the helplessness and ineptitude of Shivraj Patil, the home minister of the government of India, burst out with many demands either for his resignation or for his dismissal… Patil brazenly said: “There is no question of my resigning so long as I retain the confidence of my leader.” Whom did he mean by “my leader”? Dr.Manmohan Singh? No. Sonia Gandhi. He himself said so. What he said amounted to his asserting that so long as Sonia Gandhi had confidence in him, he did not have to worry about Manmohan Singh, who cannot touch him, or about the hundreds of innocent civilians, who have been killed by the jihadi terrorists in recent months..
The events of the past few days have further indicated–if further indication was necessary–as to who lays down the counter-terrorism policy of this country against jihadi terrorism.
Sonia Gandhi? No.
The Prime Minister of India? No.
The Home Minister of India? No.
The intelligence chiefs? No.
The police chiefs? No.
It is laid down by some of the leaders of the Muslim community themselves. They indicate the dos and don’ts and the government does not have the courage to go against them. There is a systematic attempt by some of the leaders of the Muslim community to ridicule the results of the police investigation into the activities of the IM..
Fortunately, we are a democratic country. At the time of voting, every voter should have before his or her eyes the pictures of the death and destruction being caused right across the country by the jihadis and the faces of Sharma and other similar brave officers of the security forces, who have sacrificed their lives in the fight against jihadi terrorists despite the lack of support from the so-called secular political class.
Every vote in the forthcoming elections should be a vote against jihadi terrorism and against the political leaders who are not prepared to act against the jihadi terrorists.Let there be an anti-jihadi tsunami against all of them.
Thus far and no further–that is the message that should go across to the jihadi terrorists and their political backers and secular apologists.
These Jehadi HR activists like Sachar mean only Muslims rights as Human rights.
HE NEVER OPENED HIS MOUTH FOR MINORITIES WHEN THEY ARE HINDU. AS IN KASHMIR. OR IN BANGLADESH, PAKISTAN.
Terrorists aren’t human onlee, so Justice sachar should try some animal rights activism rather than the same tired old human rights copout to defend his favorite murderers, IMHO.
Yassorin:
Recent Congress and psuedo lies abt POTA did NOT work during NDA period is wrong.
Watch Ajit Doval’s reply to it in Barkha Dutt show on NDTV. PSUEDOS ARE LYING.
POTA WAS IN EFFECT FROM SEP 2001 to DEC 2004. Only 159 or so people died during that period.
Sachar is also lying abt TADA. Guess, Arun Jaitley has exposed that statistics. 60,000 farmers were picked up by CHiman Bhai Patel. That’s why conviction was so less.
As Modiji says, these people have no concern for the victims, they have concern only for the terrorists.
What about human rights of people who are getting bombed?
Tathagatha do u have the link to the NDTV show?
How do we ensure BJP wins…
Speech by Shri L.K. Advani
Release of the book
Sachar Committee — Conspiracy to Divide the Nation?
Ahmedabad – 21 September 2008
I am very pleased to be with you at this function. I appreciate the initiative taken by the Bharatiya Vichar Manch to publish this timely and thought-provoking book Sachar Committee — Conspiracy to Divide the Nation? I also thank the Manch for inviting me to release the book.
At the outset, I congratulate all the scholars who have contributed well-researched articles to this book. These articles collectively present a critique of the Sachar Committee which simply cannot be ignored in any debate on the subject. The critique is on four important aspects — the purpose of constituting the committee, the manner of its functioning, the arguments and recommendations in its report and, finally, the use of the report for advancing the politics of minorityism by the Congress party and its allies.
Friends, we have assembled here at a time when the UPA Government is spending the last few months of its thoroughly discredited stay in office. Its nearly four-and-a-half years in saddle have been characterized by every conceivable attribute of misgovernance — unprecedented price rise, betrayal of the promises made to the aam aadmi, criminalization, corruption, devaluation of the office of Prime Minister, misuse of democratic institutions, desecration of Parliament through the ‘Cash-for-Votes’ scandal and, above all, endangering the security of the nation and the common man with its unwillingness to fight the scourge of terrorism.
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The point that I have mentioned last — the UPA Government’s unwillingness to fight the menace of terrorism firmly — is one that I would like to touch upon first.
I was in Ahmedabad in July after the city had been rocked by serial bomb blasts that left nearly 50 innocent persons dead. The previous day, Bangalore had been hit by serial bomb blasts. Yesterday in Delhi I participated in the funeral of a brave police officer who became a martyr while trying to nab terrorists in their hideout. The Delhi Police have affirmed that these terrorists were actively involved in several terrorist acts, including the one in the national capital on 13th September that killed nearly two dozen innocent people.
Please read full article here:
http://www.sanghparivar.org/blog/rkm/shri-advanis-speech-during-book-release-sachar-committee-conspiracy-to-divide-the-nation
Mr Advani what about the Babri Masjid demolition ?
Was not that a conspiracy to divide the nation ? It’s an irony that the man who took divisive politics to a new level is lecturing us
How then the tax-payers money can be spent on the Z+security of Mr. L.K. Advani – the first most notorious terrorist of the country whose daylight terorism on 6th December,1992 at Ayodhya generated the chain of terrorism in the country. ?
@abc
clap clap clap
“Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America … he’s worried that someone won’t read them their rights?” That’s Gov.Palin on Sen Obama,republican convention sspeech.
Aren’t liberals world over the same?
Of course Human Rights first.
How about starting with the human rights of victims of terrorist attacks?
The entire War on Terror is essentially a struggle for human rights – the right to live and work without fear of being blown up by terrorists every other morning.
It is a struggle to retain civilizational qualities of human freedom and tolerance which are facing a threat from radical Islam, which is the worst enemy of human rights.
For heaven’s sake OPEN YOUR EYES. Imagine this what the situation is in America today.
What about India?
http://www.radicalislam.org/content/roots-violent-islamist-extremism-and-efforts-counter-it
Dear Rajinder Sachar,
Please go and address the human rights issues of the Shah Banos, Taslima Nasreens and the Kafirs. That will solve the whole problem!
it is not “Human Right” but Muslim Right to kill and Christain Right to Convert…..
Human Rights only for people who would respect and accept our rights too, irrespective of religion, if they were to recognise our rights and freedom.
Why do we want to extend human rights to a bunch who would never recognise such rights and freedom, if they were in power [God forbid!!]
Rights and Freedom are mutual concepts. You respect my freedom and right and I would do the same. If you don’t, I bother not to.
Yoss
The United States has not had a single terrorist attack on its soil since 9-11 while India has lost count of the number of attacks since POTA was repealed.
first off, the US & India are different geographically & demographically. I think any reduction in attacks there would be easier to achieve than over here simply, by clamping down on entry and you achieve sizeable reductions already without causing too much inconvenience to existing residents.
Perfect solution when your terror is not homegrown but rather imported.
pray why havent you pointed a single instance in which existing legal provisions have been effectively used to root out terror.
This is the tricky bit, you’re saying that the opposite is true, ie POTA has been effectively used to root out terror. Can you show the basis for this premise ?
That there were fewer incidents during POTA than after ?
Is there any data to show that only during POTA, terrorism was at its lowest ?
Ok, what about pre-POTA then ?
I have this impressoin that attacks increased post 9-11 in comparison to before, because all of a sudden the extremists idea grabbed hold and was exploited, with lethal efficiency, worldwide.
Rooting out terror is ideal, rather difficult to achieve maybe even optimistic.
I was going to settle just for sizeable reductions. That to me is an achievable goal, get there and then we might be able to talk about rooting out.
Otherwise in agreement with the rest of your critiques, a credible framework has to be advanced if POTA is not suitable.
Let’s see, i get the impression that, this awareness has reached a critical mass.
ONE MAN’S TERROIST IS ANOTHER MAN’S FREEDOM FIGHTER !!
The latest issue of the Organiser, the RSS journal writes :-
“Bajrang Dal is a patriotic organisation. It came into limelight during the Ayodhya movement. It campaigned for cultural nationalism. It never challenged the Indian Constitution or law of the land. Nobody accused it of secret, underground activity or terrorism. Yes, there is need for an aggressive, nationalist effort to confront the enemies of the nation. The Bajrang Dal is in the forefront at the time of national calamities, in blast sites and flood-affected areas serving the victims irrespective of their religion or belief.”
The unprecedented wave of anti-Christian attacks that began a month ago continued in the past week with more incidents of murder, rape and arson, mostly in the eastern state of Orissa and southern state of Karnataka. Two Christians were also found murdered in the northern state of Uttarakhand. By their own admission, Bajrang Dal and its sister Hindu militant outfts, have owned up these barbaric attacks and acts of terrorism ! BJP and RSS continues to be in a stae of denial as to their involvement….
We need strong anti-terror laws (POTA is a failed law which did not help the NDA govt to achieve any thing at all in their fight against terorism) which can deal with both Islamic and Hindu radical militant outfits and punish the terrorists severly !
Your title is grossly provocative. National Interest is important but what is national interest? It is the interest of the people living in the nation, that means their right has to be protected. In this sense human right is an inseperable part of National Interest. Nowaday’s the phrase “Human Rights” has been abused to a great extent by fundamentalist-aligned pseudo progressive NGOs and quasi governmental agencies. You only have to take a look at the recent Supreme Court judgement ruling that even though the Right to Property has been removed as constitutional right it is an important human right. I expect this portal to appeal to people’s thoughts rather than emotions. It should not degenerate into a forum where people simply vent their anger.
NanavatI Report placed in Gujarat Assembly and it says “Burning of Coach was Pre-plan and not accidental”
So now the time has come to bring back Teesta,Shabana,Nafisa……
Please come back Our Intellectual people requires u all in channel as your Holidays are Over.
Its now time for work.
Nanavati Commission gives clean chit to Modi:Cries CNN-IBN
Now one more Reason for us people to Die in Bomb Blast
Godhra case: Nanavati report gives clean chit to Modi government says NDTV
Horroble Barkha immediately come back to India and leave PM US trip….YOU are required urgently here as NATIONAL INTEGRITY at stake.
WE have to be ASHAMED of ourself
Full sympathy for Young Educated youth of Peaceful community
Yossarin — not able to post comments; disappearing into blakhole.
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I charge Sachar with contempt for human rights — there is not a single word in his article on the need to protect the human rights of terrorism victims.
Human Rights vs Natoinal Interest is a false debate (like secularism vs communalism); a debate imposed on us by terrorism sympathizers who appropriated concern for human rights and make it sound like it is their dad’s property.
If Sachar types insist, yes, Human Rights should indeed come first, but only of those who respect the rights of others. In other words, “human rights first” translates into the protection, first and foremost, of the rights (most importantly the right to life) of peaceful, law-abiding citizens.
The mischief — and indeed the dishonesty — in Sacharite logic is that by “human rights” he actually means the “rights” of terrorists and terrorism-suspects; not of the victims of terrorism.
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/09/offstumped-gets-it-bit-off.html
My thoughts more on the headline than the article.
Very similar to what OT’s said here.
Agworld and others – notice the phrase is “Human Rights” and not human rights. Its a metaphor for the transglobal agenda of the left that binds lunatics across the globe.justice sachar and his breed imply that transglobal agenda and not human rights as in the interests of every citizen of this nation safeguarded by the constitution.
yossarin,
lunatics?
you are piously labelling people.
so TEESTA is back with Bang…..and u will see her in TV for few days..
Few Gr8 observation from her:
She said that her organisation would urge the Supreme Court on Friday to restrain publicising the report to prevent any communal fallout of it in Gujarat or elsewhere in the country
Even legally speaking, the terms of reference for the Nanavati Commission, clubbing the Godhra incident and the ensuing communal violence, only smack of political manipulations, she contended.
Please send SOS to Barkha to come back immediately…….
So dear now if any new bomb blast in the country then Blame NANAVATI report….
cnn-ibn
Doors of S-6 and S-7 bogey were forcibly opened and a person called Hassan LALU threw objects which were burning inside the bogey, according to the report. It also said that Molvi Umarji planned the entire conspiracy.
Others named in the conspiracy are Shaukat LALU, Imran Sheri, Rafique Batuck, Salim Zarda, Jabbir, Sheraj Bala.
THIS IS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST LALU PRASAD YADAV…..
How can they be Hassan LALU,Shaukat LALU
Found an interesting article about POTA
http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/21inter.htm
It’s with a lawyer of the Supreme Court
She thinks the main problems are
- ‘intel’ and goes as far to say that our agencies might be ‘infiltrated’. If the flow of drugs can’t be hampered then anything can come in. Tho if you notice with the last few incidents, after mumbai 2006, most have been ‘low intensity’ so there seems to be a change. I’d be surprised if we see an Islamabad size event happening here anytime soon.
- the state’s inabilty to deal with the gains of terrorism & the financial angles involved, there are no laws at all to deal with this.
The police have sufficient powers to search, to seize, to enter premises. There is nothing that they don’t have. POTA comes into operation only after the police have completed their investigation; it does not give them any extra powers to investigate. It gives the judiciary extra powers to convict on the basis on confessions and things like that.
POTA does not give the police any extra powers; they still have to investigate under regular law.
So rationally rather than emotionally, show your counter arguments.
Whose “Human Rights first”? The ordinary citizens? Or of The Terrorists?
First off, can we not use that hallowed expression, “War on Terror”? That war as we all know is fake – may be you don’t agree! And all the questions about 9-11 have not gone away, whether or not you agree with ‘conspiracy theorists’. So let’s also refrain from comparing our situation with US and UK and all those places where terrorism has become the in thing.
And who defines National Interest? Ostensibly a lot of the good stuff Bush-Cheney and co have done have been in America’s national interest. Exxon and Halliburton would agree with that, doesn’t mean there is any legitimate national interest – or may be there is in the long run. So what do you intend for those suspected of terrorism? Torture, concentration camps or other benign forms of persecution would be in order I suspect. Terrorism (where it is real) must be dealt with, but it is a slippery slope (not that we have much to lose in our beloved country!) when you start fiddling with the foundations of the constitution.
Delhi Police under HOME MINISTRY charges them as Terrorist
Jamia University under HRD Minister says they are Innocent.
Well….This Can happen only in Secular India
Excerpt from :-Justice Rajinder Sachar Committee
Madarsas and Mainstream Education
Madarsas have played an important role in providing religious education to the
Muslim population. They also provide ‘mainstream’ education in many cases and
several of them are in the process of modernizing their curriculum. While this is an
important initiative of the Community to improve educational conditions, it is
important to take note of the fact that less than 4 per cent of the Muslim children
in the school going age actually attend the full time regular Madarsas. Therefore,
the modernized Madarsas are unlikely to satisfy the educational demand of the
Community and the State will have to make provision for mainstream schools in
areas where such schools are not available. In other words, Madarsas should not to
be looked upon as alternatives to the regular school, but a complement. The
following steps seem desirable:
Work out mechanisms whereby Madarsas can be linked with a higher
secondary school board so that students wanting to shift to a
regular/mainstream education can do so after having passed from a Madarsa.
Provision of “equivalence” to Madarsa certificates/degrees for subsequent
admissions into institutions of higher level of education. Flexibility should be
introduced so as to enable Madarsa graduates to move across to regular
mainstream education after graduating from these institutions, if they so wish.
In other words the opportunity should be made available to them, especially in
courses where admission is done through an entrance test/ competitive
examination.
Recognition of the degrees from Madarsas for eligibility in competitive
examinations such as the Civil Services, Banks, Defense Services and other such
examinations. The idea is to facilitate a process whereby Madarsa graduates too
have a choice and an incentive to participate in these employment streams.
This should, however, remain within the existing framework of these
competitive examinations.
In the 1990s government introduced a scheme for modernization of Madarsas.
This was a step in the right direction but it was robbed of part of its utility
because of some deficiencies relating for example to choice of subjects , quality
of teachers, accommodation of the modern subjects in a time-table intensely
packed with traditional subjects. Government will be well advised to review and
revamp the scheme before embarking on its expansion.
# 47 is a case in point.
Many of the things taught in madrasas are plainly divisive, and indoctrinate the “student” to think that he is special because he is a muslim. Growing up with Quranic teachings gradually turn you into a person who looks out not for India, but muslims only; to hell with anything other than Islam. If it is “bad” (eg other religions), it has to be destroyed; if it is “good” (eg. land, property) then it must be made Islamic.
Madrasas are not in the national interest, and should be banned.
“4% muslim children of schoolgoing age” is 4% too many. It is people like Justice Sachar who let madrasas fly under the radar, instead of them being in the national spotlight.
Is he advocating infesting regular/mainstream education with the ‘M’ virus?
[...] As far as the BJP is concerned, let me make it absolutely clear that we shall never conduct ourselves in such a short-sighted way that history would hold us guilty of not doing our duty at the right time and in the right manner. We are prepared to make any sacrifices for defending the unity and ensuring the security of our Motherland. Our vision is not limited by the considerations of where will our Party be after the next elections. Rather, it extends to caring about where will India be after a hundred years, after a thousand years. [...]