National Seminar on October 4, 2008, New Delhi
“The first step toward combating international terrorism is toidentify the places from which it springs, and the latest StateDepartment report properly points to South Asia as anewhub of activity. Pakistan and the rigidly Islamits Talibanmovement that dominates Afghanistan are providing safehaven and support for the loose networks of individuals andgroups that seem to be replacing states as the primary source ofglobal terror. The terrorist problem in South Asia involvesprivately sponsored groups motivated less by politicalgrievances than by religion and ideology, which are notamenable to negotiation.”(The New YorkTimes, May 3,2001)”
The scourge of international terrorism, roiled with religious radicalism, is upon us and with a vengeance!Notwithstanding, this phenomena, which presents an existential threat to all democratic societies andcivilization in general, has to be combated by aprescription, that dovetails punitive security measures andthe virtues of an enlightened discourse, into a Policy-Compact.As has been the standard operating procedure of the past, post the Bengaluru and Ahmedabad terror strikes,discussion about combating terrorism, has once again been relegated to the periphery, vide platitudes that do not go far enough. The inveterate issues, pertaining to a dearth of information gathering at the base, ham-handed crossexchange of information amongst security agencies and more importantly, the feckless analyses of data collected,remain on the roster and repeatedly come to the fore, as monumental lapses, which ought to be addressed.
It mustbe borne in mind, that those who mastermind and perpetrate these heinous acts, do so, not out of any commitmentto the Muslims of the country, instead to further accentuate the cleavages between Hindus and Muslims and to heighten Muslim alienation from the Indian state. They see that as a useful step, in their larger agenda, of weakeningand possibly, dismembering India.At a time when the terrorists have sounded the bugle that, they can strike with impunity, at the place and time oftheir choosing; more often than not, the State machinery appears clueless on how to effectively tackle this issue.
A litany of questions await; with a majority of them waiting to be answered.
How and why terrorist outfits in Indiaand abroad are able to recruit young Muslims in India?
Why so many well-educated youngsters are joining terroristorganizations?
How and why our intelligence gathering is failing repeatedly?
Why the existing anti-terror laws havenot proved to be deterrent enough?
Why most of the intelligentsia and democratic-liberal opinion makers are stillwary of any tough action against terrorism?
Why tough language against terrorism is considered hawkish andantiparticular communities?
How a ‘War on terrorism’ could be waged with the involvement of all sections andcommunities?
Why only politicians are reacting to policy issues concerning terrorism?
Why civil society as also intellectuals, are apparently wary of participating in the public discourse on War on Terrorism?
In order to find answers to these nagging questions, a brainstorming event, has been planned, involving knowledgeable persons across the ideologies.
It is on this background that a National Seminar on War on Terrorismis being organized under the aegis of Rambhau Mhalgi Prabodhini (RMP), a Mumbai based Institute.
Experts on issues like defense and internal security, experienced govt. officials, ex-civil servants, political analysts, journalists,activists associated with voluntary organizations as well as educationists and opinion leaders and above all family members of the victims of terrorism are being invited to join this day-long National Seminar on War on Terrorism to be held at New Delhi on October 4, 2008.
This day-long seminar would be focusing mainly on analysis of the ‘Changing Face of Terrorism in India’ and the Need for a Stringent Law to Combat Terrorism effectively.’
It is expected that this seminar will bring about a consensus about the actions to be taken for doing away with the threat of terrorism and ultimately evolve a Charter of Recommendations for Preventing Terrorist Tendencies.
ORGANISING COMMITIEE
Gopinath Munde,President, Rambhau Mhalgi Prabodhini
Convener Prof. Bal Apte, Mp, Vice-President,Rambhau Mhalgi Prabodhini
Lt. Gen.(Rtd) D. B. ShekatkarPVSM,AVSM,VSM
Rajeev Pratap Rudi, MP
Prakash Javdekar MP
Shyam Jaju
Advocate Bhupender Yadav
Advocate Ganesh Sovani
Sudhir Agarwal
Dr. Hitesh Vajpayee
Vinay Sahasrabuddhe,Director General, Rambhau Mhalgi Prabodhini
PROGRAMME ? 4 October 2008 Venue: Constitution Club, VP House, Rafi Marg, New Delhi.
09.00 – 1000 hrsRegistration, Tea and Snacks
10.00 – 1200 hrsInaugural Session and Key-Note Address by Hon.ble Shri L K Advani,Leader of Opposition, LOK – SABHA
12.15 – 13.30 hrs
Session 1:Changing Face of Terrorism
13.30 – 14.30 hrsLunch
14.30 – 15.30 hrsDiscussion on Presentations made
16.00 – 17.30 hrsSession 2: Need for a Stringent Law to Combat Terrorism Effectively
18.00 – 19.30 hrsValedictory SessionFor further details and registration,
contact:Ravindra Sathe, Executive Director,E-mail: ravis@rmponweb.org Mobile 098200 0706417, Chanchal Smriti, G D Ambekar Marg, Wadala, Mumbai – 400031Phone: +22-2413-6966 Fax: +22-2415-6725
Filed under: War on Terror, betrayal of aam admi
YOSS
Can we participate?????
Are you going to be One Speaker……
Assure you will land to Delhi on oct 4 just to hear u.
Prashant – just passing on the message
its open to public to participate. I have requested the organisers for a webcast for those who cant make it in person.
A webcast would be awesome.
Tks, Y.
Yoss,
A webcast will be really great
by the way can folks give some suggestions before the seminar, may be experts can have a look at them? if yes.. do we have a contact mail id?
Israel tells India: Declare war on terror
Yigal Palmor, Israeli government spokesman said, “The firmness in tackling the problem should be in the back of their minds. It is essential to study the political environment and combine political and miltary means. That is the way we have followed. I wouldn’t say if that is successful or not.Everybody can make their own judgement.”
read here.
http://timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=16279
IE Terror symphathy. How much money IE got from Jihadi terror brigades and Congress to publish terror symphathy article? Did they wrote articles on victims, their families? Nah, there is no money. Money is flowing from Congress-UPA terror supporting mission to create symphathy for terrorists and their families.
Delhi blasts: ‘Hang my son if he is guilty’
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/delhi-blasts-hang-my-son-if-he-is-guilty/362610/
Hello Yossarin,
Do you have access to the latest mujahiddin email. Can you post it.
Thanks,
Pankaj.
@ Bharat : – Delhi blasts: ‘Hang my son if he is guilty’
I winder if Afzal Guru’s mother/wife/kids/bretheren ever came out with such a statement. Someone should dig the archives of pseudo-secular rags like IE/Hindu/IBNlive and uncover this, and throw it in the face of the UPA govt.
Only Modi can do what Patel could, says Cho
‘No politician in this country thinks that Kashmir belongs to India. The protests by Muslims in the valley against the land allotment to Amarnath Shrine Board is condemnable and PDP leader Mufti Mohammed Sayeed is a ‘divisionist’ masquerading as a politician.’
‘Sardar Patel would have done it had he been alive and Narendra Modi will do it and If Advani becomes the Prime Minister, I will urge him to make Modi as the Home Minister’, he added.
read here.
http://newstodaynet.com/newsindex.php?id=10595%20&%20section=7
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UPA is only passing time in office: Modi [INTERVIEW]
15 Sep 2008, 0959 hrs IST, Mohua Chatterjee,TNN
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/UPA_is_only_passing_time_in_office_Modi/articleshow/3483585.cms
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Columnists/P_R_Ramesh/Of_thick_hides_and_soft_underbelly/articleshow/msid-3491221,curpg-2.cms
Of thick hides and soft underbelly
17 Sep, 2008, 0000 hrs IST,P R Ramesh, ET Bureau
…Patil is part of a government that has internalised the tripe that it is poverty, inadequate education and lack of development that breeds terrorism. The government leadership is naïve enough to believe that the country can get rid of the problem through Sachar committee recommendations, a few scholarships in universities and providing first right to resources. If the government and its cronies were to be believed, a bit of education and some prosperity will wean jehadis away from their current aim of the establishment of a world-wide Caliphate. Anyone who questions this dim-witted approach is termed a sub-human or at best, a rightist reactionary, whose voice should not be heard. ..
An inspiring story:
Unique Sangh experiment in rural development
http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=255&page=7
BJP should use Pictures, Movies of all terror attacks (Delhi, Ahmedabad, Banglalore, Varanasi, etc)and ask public what they want? Does they want terror attacks to continue and Congress to rule Delhi and nation or want a secure Delhi and Bharat under BJP?
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Modi’s anti-terror visit makes city Cong edgy
Rajesh Kumar/ Deepak Kumar Jha | New Delhi
Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s scheduled visit to Delhi hospitals on Friday to meet last Saturday’s serial blast victims has made the Delhi Government jittery. The Congress Government feels that the Gujarat CM may take the centrestage and draft a lead for the Delhi BJP ahead of the Assembly polls.
http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=front%5Fpage&file_name=story5%2Etxt&counter_img=5
The War on Terrorism is a Lie
The war on terrorism is a lie because terrorism is not an enemy, it is a strategy.
Terrorism is a strategy employed by weaker states and non-state actors when fighting an asymmetric war against a more powerful opponent.
No state or non-state actor enters a conventional war against an enemy it has no chance of defeating conventionally.
Since the U.S. has declared that it will maintain military superiority without challenge, it has done everything in its power to do just that. The US defense budget for 2008 is some $700 billion. There is no single state or non-state actor on this planet that can defeat the United States in a conventional war.
Therefore, any single state or non-state actor that finds itself at war with the United States will be forced to fight an asymmetric war. That is, they will be forced to employ terrorism.
Therefore the war on terrorism is a war against anyone at war with the United States. Therefore the war on terrorism is a lie. It is not a war on terrorism at all, but a war to promote and defend US imperialism.
@Maszka:
The war on terrorism is a lie because terrorism is not an enemy, it is a strategy.
Terrorism is a strategy employed by weaker states and non-state actors when fighting an asymmetric war against a more powerful opponent. No state or non-state actor enters a conventional war against an enemy it has no chance of defeating conventionally.
That is a relevant observation but your conclusion that:
It is not a war on terrorism at all, but a war to promote and defend US imperialism.
is flawed because US is not the only target of such asymmetric warfare. All other target countries are not fighting for US but their own sake. Any alignment of interest between US and other target countries is just a fringe-benefit while they all go about securing themselves.
@NotReallyAnonymous:
All other target countries are not fighting for US but their own sake.
well, alright, not unless you’re Georgia-under-Sakaashvilli.
but then that fight is not about terrorism in the first place.
YOSS:
A suggestion for what it is worth.
If we can put together a small but effective e-mail together – no more than 2 pages – summarizing an indictment of UPA government and why India should vote for NDA, ALL of us can send that e-mail to EVERY Indian we know AND ask them to do the same. Such a chain letter, started 2-3 months before the elction can help NDA. We can even insert a link to more details of the indictment of UPA and reasons for voting for NDA back on Offstumped. This will help increase traffic on your website as well.
Only you can write such an effective e-mail. I for one will be more than happy to broadcast it to at least 5000 Indians.
There may be some other participants on this site (like myself) who have conducted e-mail campgains for marketing purposes. They can help increase the reach and effectiveness of the e-mail campagin as well.
I will be happy to help send e-mail to large # of people if some folks have such lists but do not have means to send them. However, it is more effective when folks get e-mails from people they know.
@John Mazska
>>The war on terrorism is a lie because terrorism is not an enemy, it is a strategy.
I agree with you about this viewpoint, but you are looking @ it from US’s viewpoint, and also that would have not been the case if 9/11 wouldn’t have happened.
In our (Indian) context, we’ve battling the menace of terrorism, in its current form, for almost three decades now. It started was back in ‘81 with the assasination of the publisher of a Hindi daily newspaper Lala Jagat Narain in Punjab at the hands of Khalistani terrorists.
War on terrorism is nothing but a word play, @ which the Americans are quite adept at. From Indian perspective, this offense what you term as ‘War on Terrorism’, which I may call an assault on terrorists and their agents, at the same time taking preventive as well as defensive measures, to protect the innocent lives as well as property, is yet to be put in place by Indian policy makers. They, esp those in power @ present, are more enamored to the vote bank politics, which in turn speaks of their lack of will to enact a coherent policy against terror acts committed on Indian soil as well as against Indian citizens on foreign lands.
Guys please learn to ignore the trolls
The blasts in Delhi September 12, 2008 are another in the series of tragic blasts in which scores of people have been killed are condemnable calling for an unbiased investigation into the same, the guilty be punished. At the same time it seems that our investigating agencies are ignoring some thing very crucial in the matters of investigating the acts of terror.
While the current investigation is totally focused around SIMI, many an alleged culprits have been put behind the bars. At the same time another stark truth is being deliberately sidelined and undermined. And that relates to the blasts done by Bajrang Dal and Hindu Jagran Samiti.
1. In a serious case of blasts in Nanded in April 2006 two Bajarang Dal workers died when making bombs. Similar incidents of bomb blasts were witnessed in many places around that time, Parabhani, Jalna and Aurangabad in Maharashtra. Most of these were in front of the mosques. The Nanded investigation ‘leads’ were not followed. Local BJP MP told the police not to harass those related to the culprits in the wake of the Bajrang Dal involvement in the bomb making. In Nanded, ATS also found fake moustache and pajama kurta, the idea being that the culprits will dress like a Muslim while doing these black deeds.
2. A bomb blast took place at the RSS office at Tenkasi, in the Tirunelveli District of Tamil Nadu on January 24. They had confessed that they indulged in this terror act to instigate the local Hindu population against the Muslims.
3. The bombs which exploded in Gadkari Rangayatan on 4th June 2008 injured seven people. Again Maharashtra ATS succeeded in nabbing the culprits,part of Hindu Janjagaran Samiti (HJS). These culprits were also involved in other blasts, in Vashi, Panvel and Ratnagiri. But no further action was taken.
4. On 24th August, in Kanpur two Bajrang Dal workers died while making bombs. Rajiv alias Piyush Mishra and Bhupinder Singh were killed while making crude bombs on Sunday afternoon.
On 25th August, Monday, police recovered some crude hand grenades, lead oxide, red lead, potassium nitrate, bomb pins, timers and batteries from the spot, inside a hostel in Kalyanpur area of Kanpur, about 80 km from Lucknow.On 25th August, Monday, police recovered some crude hand grenades, lead oxide, red lead, potassium nitrate, bomb pins, timers and batteries from the spot, inside a hostel in Kalyanpur area of Kanpur, about 80 km from Lucknow.
No further investigation, why?
Because Bajrang Dal is a nationalistic organization fighting jihadis and evangelists and psedo seculars.
@sachin
come to bengal and u will find Bomb making factory in the local offices of CPIM,CONGRESS so called Nationalist party.
So they too be equated with SIMI??????
sHAME On you people as just bcoz of you all TERRORIST having a BOMB party.
Dhananjay@6:
Great suggestion.
Yossarin,
Let us develop a 1-2 pager email that could be disseminated to as many voters as we can.
We could also post the mailer on as many blogs as possible, to get maximum coverage.
To start with, it could be a blog+email campaign.Towards the end, we could make it as SMS campaign.
One of the important things to do: All possible ‘voters’ should get Voter ID cards and enroll themselves in the voter list. Bloggers could aggregate the information on where to go to register and obtain a Voter ID card in different cities, and post the info on the Net.
Israel tells India: Declare war on terror
Can what works in an area the size of Mizoram scale up for the whole country ?
I’m sure in such a small place you can very effecitvely track people, and insipite of it Israel isn’t exactly terror free. It’s calmer nowadays than before, but you really need to look at its history since 1987 or the first intifada. They were in the press nearly every other week for some incident or the other.
What i would really like to see is a list of all terrorist incidents over the last 10-15 years with a column adjacent indicating whether there was any convictions as a result of. This way we get an idea of where we stand. I’m not interested in the partisan angle voiced by others here, this sort of thing should work, and be effective, regardless of who happens to be in office.
Tougher laws are not a panacea, or a deterrent, there are plenty of laws on the books which amount to nothing if there is no enforcement& sytem to work behind it. As i read around the web i see various suggestions made.
- A central intelligence agency that could co-ordinate amongst different states. Do we also need a homeland terrorism dept ?
- Better networking within the community, if you marginalise an entire community, don’t expect them to come up with the perps.
just see how LOW this Congress can go……….for VOTE
http://dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=STATES&file_name=state2%2Etxt&counter_img=2
A son who is NOT in touch with her Mother and Family is called Innocent………
Well my friends in Media even Osama Bin Laden Family calls him innocent.
Will our Media have the same sympathy for a Hindu Boy who ose family died in Bomb Blast and Decide to do bombing in the Muslim Locality or on some Masjid??????
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/10-years-ago-tauqeer-was-arrested-for-bab…/362820/
All terrorist attacks have been linked to Islamic Terrorism, by virtue of open declaration by Islamic organizations, involved in Islamic Terror attacks. Common thread running in their cowardly attacks are Hindu hatred, and ethnic cleansing of kafirs, in the name of jehad.
Some of the bloggers in this post and elsewhere in other similar posts are conveniently overlooking these basic facts.
Indian civilization has survived, and the only civilization to survive, from 5000 years. The inherent quality of Indian and say Hindu philosophy is One World, One Family. Inslam fanatics are waging their losing battle, now that Hindu Renaissance is taking roots, witness Jammu’s agitation for 2 months. The next phase will be Union Election, when the Congress is going to be ousted lock, stock and barrel.
WE SOULD UNITE AND CONDEMN ALL IRRESPECTIVE OF RELIGIOUS WHO ARE WORKING AGAINST NATIONAL INTREST.
BE it SIMI or ULFA or Khalistan Commando Force….
Let Our Intellectual knows that we are not targeting Muslim BUT Hindus like ULFA whom we all call Terrorist Organisation and which consist of Hindus.
I think MUSLIM community must introspect that WHY majority Terrorist are MUSLIM.
We never says ALL MUSLIM are Terrorist BUT its true that majority of them is Muslim
YOSS dear.
Our TIGER is coming to Delhi on 19 SEPT.
Please make arrangement that WE reader of OFFSTUMPED can get the Video/Transcript of his speech.
Earlier there was saying “Atal Behari Bol Raha hai Indira ka Singhasan Dol Raha hai” NOW its”Narendra bhai aa Raha Hai, Desh Drohi ghabra rahe hai”
http://dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=front%5Fpage&file_name=story5%2Etxt&counter_img=5
Sept 7 was NM’s birthday. His website is completely revamped. One can react with him also.
http://www.narendramodi.in/
Enjoy the following Kashmir Story.
An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the United Nations Assembly that made the world community smile.
A representative from India began: ‘Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Rishi Kashyap of Kashmir, after whom Kashmir is named.
When he struck a rock and it brought forth water, he thought, ‘What a good opportunity to have a bath.’
He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water.
When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Pakistani had stolen them.’
The Pakistani representative jumped up furiously and shouted, ‘What are you talking about? The Pakistanis weren’t there then.’
The Indian representative smiled and said, ‘And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech.’
And they say Kashmir belongs to them… : )
Correction: Sept.17 was NM’s birthday.
Many thanks to all the bloggers who have shown some interest in participating in this Seminar. You may please visit Rambhau Mhalgi Prabodhini’s website at http://www.rmponweb.org and register for this Seminar.
Here is a Brief Note on the points made by Shri Narendra Modi, Chief Minister of Gujarat while intervening in the discussion on the Political resolution.
The Country stands at the cross-roads of an important phase in its life when the government of the day has become a threat to the unity and sovereignty of India.
Historically the RSS, Jana Sangh and the BJP were parties of aggressive nationalism. The Communists, the Muslim league were subversive in their stand on issue of sovereignty and integrity. The Congress had a traditional centrist position on these issues.
During the past few years, the drift in the Congress has strengthened the forces which are out to weaken India. Congress under Mrs. Sonia Gandhi & Dr. Manmohan Singh have drifted the traditional Congress position on national sovereignty
Analyses of the Congress / UPA functioning reveals the following ten issues were the UPA has seriously compromised national interest. This Government has tried to assault symbols of our national and cultural pride.
1. This government has been soft on terror. It has consistently sent a signal that its softness on terror is minority friendly. The repeal of POTA, the non execution of Afzal Guru, the refusal to give assent to the State level anti-organized crime laws are all evidence of the government’s softness on terror. The softness on terror is being used by the UPA as an instrument for vote bank politics.
2. The government has bowed to its allies in agreeing to the demolition of the Ram Sethu. This was done essentially to hurt the majority sentiment in the country.
3. The decision to withdraw allotment of land to the Sri Amaranathji Shrine Board was an evidence of the government bending backwards to appease the separatist. The UPA government wanted to please the separatist even at the cost of alienating the nationalist.
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4. The illegal immigrants from Bangladesh continue to invade India. The Government of India and the UPA don’t perceive these illegal immigrants as a threat to the sovereignty and demography of India. They prefer to use these immigrants as a vote bank.
5. The Supreme Court quashed both the IMDT Act and “The Foreigner’s (Control) Order Amendments” since they were intended to make detection of Foreigners’ impossible. The UPA has failed to introduce a proper mechanism for foreigners’ detection.
6. Three constituents of the UPA, the Samajwadi Party, the RJD and LJP have openly supported SIMI and the Congress continuous to maintain a relationship with them.
7. Religious conversion by missionaries is been protected and increased even though it has an adverse impact on demography and creates social tensions. The proposal to grant reservations to Dalit Christians and Muslims is intended to incentives conversion.
8. The Sachar Commission recommendation intended to introduce Communal budgeting in India and initiate reverse discrimination against the majority are now sought to be implemented.
9. Religion based reservations have no place in our Constitutional system. Yet the UPA has been trying to introduce religion based reservations in states ruled by the UPA.
10. The Indo-US nuclear deal seriously compromises national security in as much as it limits our testing option particularly when China and Pakistan have nuclear potentials.
As against this our state governments particularly in Gujarat, Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh are the only ones which have succeeded in resolving terrorist crimes. The Chattisgarh government has launched a crusade against Naxalism.
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In Gujarat our police intelligence and investigating ability is being supported by the state government. Vote bank politics is not allowed to intervene. It is for this reason that the Gujarat police has cracked the recent Ahmedabad blast case.
We are handicapped since Gujarat’s anti organized crime law has not been given central clearance. We are being prevented by those who act soft on terror from fighting terror. But we are determined to carry on the battle both against the terrorists and against those who prevent us from fighting terror.
It has been reported in a section of media that the National Security advisor has also supported the Gujarat government’s proposal for an anti-terror law namely GUJCOC to fight terror. The Home Ministry has opposed it.
Those concerned about terror obviously support GUJCOC, those concerned about terrorists understandably oppose it.
Terrorism is not just in Kashmir, It is present in various forms, It is present in a 500 rupee counterfeit note, as well as in a drug deal : Narendra Bhai.
Govt says POTA is draconian. This is ridiculous. First they say they repeal POTA. Then they keep saying after each blast, that no strong laws are needed. After the Delhi blast they started saying that strong laws are needed. Now they are saying POTA is draconian.
What the hell is this?
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/sep/18delblast1.htm
POTA is absolutely draconian: Centre
The central government on Thursday said it will not bring back anti-terror law POTA as it is ‘absolutely draconian’.
Cabinet approves measures to tackle terrorism
Talking to media persons in New Delhi [Images], Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta also informed that the Union Cabinet had approved the setting up of a Research and Technology Centre within the Intelligence Bureau.
About 58 markets and 27 border posts in national capital New Delhi will be brought under CCTV coverage in a time-bound manner, he added.
There are vast gaps in our Intelligence: PM
More details are awaited.
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2008/09/war-on-terror-seminar-in-new-delhi.html
TERRORISM :It’s a hydra-headed monster — Narendra Modi
It’s a hydra-headed monster
Tackle it through multi-pronged strategy
By Narendra Modi
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2006/08/terrorism-its-hydra-headed-monster.html
Governance and society in times of terrorism
Terrorism is the calculated use of violence to inculcate fear, intended to coerce or intimidate governments or societies as to the pursuits of goals that are generally political, religious or ideological. International terrorism involves citizens or territory of more than one country.
The mindset that prevailed and caused the creation of Pakistan still persists. Pakistan’s internal politics is Indo-centric and as such thrives on “hate India” emotions. Pakistan takes financial help from across the world as a result of the tensions with India. These are the reasons why Pakistan is carrying out all these activities.
It is as if all international forums are now divided between those who support terrorism and those who are determined to fight it. The world is shaping into two camps. Earlier, there were two superpowers. In days to come there would be two groups—one that supports terrorism and the other that stands for humanity.
I believe that Hindustan should pledge all its goodwill and strength towards formation of such a group. All of us will have to unite to fight.
Same thing happened in Gujarat in the post-Ishrat case, with stories like ‘Modi has killed Ishrat’. The third day the media people were left with red faces with nowhere to hide when Pakistan issued a statement saying Ishrat was their operative and that they were proud that she had sacrificed her life for her country.
Post-September 11, even United States of America came out with stringent laws against terrorism. They went two steps ahead and not only have made immigration procedures rather harsh but have also created an entire new department of Homeland Security so as to ensure its territory’s integrity against terrorist-related aggression. Unless the same is done in India, there is little hope for effective action against militancy.
Pakistan has assisted insurgency in the North-east since the 1950s; supported the terrorists in Punjab since 1981; sponsored indigenous terrorism in Jammu & Kashmir since 1989 and pan-Islamic terrorism through pro-Bin Laden Pakistani terrorist organisations in the same state since 1993; and instigated trans-national mafia groups such as that of Dawood Ibrahim to commit acts of
Immediately after the first instance of sending mail before/after the blasts we perfectly know a typical nomenclature of their email ids. I fail to understand how tonnes of intelligence were either ignored or not even considered analysing based on their old/new email ids, which ultimately ended up condusive to more blasts after that.
Don’t we have good IT guys in RAW/IB or didn’t get enough intel from UK, where one of the ids were created.
@narayan
dear it is the good intention to fight terrorism by this government which is lacking
Great Article by GuruMurthy……
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?artid=JbjuRSrOYJM=&Title=The+holy+text+and+terror&SectionID=d16Fdk4iJhE=&MainSectionID=d16Fdk4iJhE=&SectionName=aVlZZy44Xq0bJKAA84nwcg==&SEO=Mujahideen,QURAN,RELIGION,ISLAM
This secular largesse did not assuage the extremists. Instead it has put the Islamist terror on an escalator. Not surprisingly the jihadis have, in the Delhi email, used the very logic of the secular media, and very photographs carried by it a thousand times, to claim that they were taking revenge for the Gujarat carnage! While the jihadis see terror as a mandate of the holy book, the secular media remains juvenile in its oration. It still cites Shabana Azmi’s inability to get a fourth flat, in the building of her choice in the place of her choice as illustrative of the failure of constitutional equity to minorities, and asks how there could be peace with such injustice! But, no section is more badly treated or discriminated than the untouchables in India. If the secularists’ logic for jihadi violence is applied to them, they can legitimately turn terrorists. But mere grievances cannot produce that deadly hate. It is the jihadi theological claim, uncontested by the Islamist clergy and the secularists, that makes terror a religious duty, and a deadly one at that. Injustice,minus theology, cannot breed that deadly terror. Unless the debate on terror transcends the trivia and gets to the root of the terror — the theological motive for terror —the secularists will end up promoting terror, not containing it.Will they introspect?
So GUYS the Reason of Delhi Bomb Blast is bcoz our Secular Intellectual Shabana Azmi ji didnot GOT the FOURTH FLAT of her choice in MUMBAI……
Webcast is a great idea. Am in Delhi but cant attend. Too busy.
Govt says POTA is draconian.
How long were they allowed to detain without charging a suspect under POTA ?
Govt says POTA is draconian.
Actually they should take LOTA and run
Guys.. going down memory lane – Witness the destruction of the last Hindu Kingdom in the world. I believe that Sonia deliberately abetted this
Who killed the royal family of Nepal?
Author: Rajeev Srinivasan
Publication: Rediff on Net
Date: June 4, 2001
There is something not quite right in the agency reports regarding the mysterious deaths of the royal family of Nepal. First, there is the curious story that the crown prince, Dipendra, having massacred his entire family, then tried to kill himself. He might have succeeded, except he contrived to shoot himself in the back of the head. This appears rather difficult to do, especially with an assault rifle. So then who shot him? And the latest story is that an Uzi assault rifle “exploded”. Very strange, that an explosion should have precisely targeted all these people.
Second, there was the immediate certificate of non- involvement given to China by that self-proclaimed expert on the affairs of the Indian subcontinent, Barbara Crossette of The New York Times, thanks to reader Sanjai who pointed this out to me. The Hindu newspaper, despite its name a left-wing paper, said the same thing: that the “so-called” Maoists had nothing to do with this, thanks to reader Suresh. Said Crossette:
“More recently, as democratically elected governments of left and right run by a few upper-caste families with little grassroots contact have stumbled, a powerful radical leftist movement, usually described as Maoist but not thought to be backed by China, has been on the march in the Nepalese countryside. The rebels [are] gradually encircling Kathmandu and severely damaging its economically important tourist industry.”
Methinks the woman [and The Hindu too] doth protest too much. Did anybody accuse China yet? But here is Crossette, a consistent China-lover, instantly asserting that China was not at fault: suspicious, isn’t it? And this is China’s modus operandi — stoke Maoist insurgencies as part of its missionary activity. Indonesia some time ago, Sri Lankan too, and ongoing activities in India. These are all part of the general empire-building tactics intended to result in the Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, the only catch being that all the prosperity will belong to China.
A Maoist insurrection right next door to occupied Tibet, just like the insurrections in India’s Nagaland, Myanmar, etc — the Chinese have nothing to do with these either, so horrified they would be at the suggestion, innocent an
Yes IT IS draconian for terrorists, who happen to be their favourite Vote-Bank.
Congis r no idiots when it comes to doing Electoral calculations and manipulations. They know where and how to put their money. Parading a Bin laden look-alike for their campaign is just a tip of the ice-berg nah… glacier.
As someone will note, extraordinary things have happened to two Hindu civilizations since Antonia Maino came into the scene. Also note that while everybody in theGandhi family dropped like flies (Sanjay, Indira, Rajeev), madame and her spawn are going strong (I remember this famous saying “the assasin survives”). Found this write up on the web – bit disorganized but pretty good.
Here I am referring to Jitendra Prasad. He died of a heart attack iirc after he had threatened Sonia’s power at CWC. Kamla Nath also had a narrow escape once. Scindia’s death was very suspicous as it was reported that the plane exploded in mid air. Now single engine planes are not known to self combust and explode in midair.
Maybe we should beleive Congress supporters that Sonia does possess magical powers, her opponents simply vanish.
Perhaps it continues the trail of Lal Bahadur Shastri and Sanjay Gandhi who died in mysterious circumstances too.
In that past 5 year there have been some extra ordinary events in India and surroundings. Consider the massacare of the Nepalese royal family, there are lot of unanswered questions in there.
However without evidence of a pattern these happenings will remain what they are currently, conspiracy theories.
LASTLY :
Sonia is the biggest threat to this nation.
1) Sitaram Kesari, the only elected Congress party president in recent times and a dalit, died of shock due to Sonia’s mistreatment.
2) Madhav Rao Sindia dies mysteriously in a crash.
3) Rajesh Pilot dies mysteriously in car accident,
4) Jitendra Prasad dies of shock due to Sonia’s misbehavior and super-human status.
5) Pramod Mahajan murdered. …any guesses…any link with Mussolini’s descendants?
6) Vivek Maitra and Rahul Mahajan, who must have known some secret about Mahajan’s killing, are poisoned.
7) Nepali royal family
Now Folks hear this what Congi says:
‘Advani, Modi responsible for indigenous terrorism’
“The BJP is trying to project L.K. Advani and Narendra Modi as faces of anti-terror though they are responsible for indigenous terrorism in the country,” Congress spokesperson Manish Tiwari said.
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1191330
Some more on Nepal.. Sorry to overload but Nepal is ver very important
Nepali Hindu group owns responsibility for Indian priest’s murder
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From correspondents in Kathmandu, Nepal, 03:30 PM IST
An Indian priest, who was shot dead in Nepal Monday, is believed to have been targeted by members of the Nepal Defence Army, an obscure group that wants Hinduism restored as the state religion.
Johnson Moyalan was murdered inside the Don Bosco mission in Nepal’s Sirsia town, about 15 km from the India-Nepal border. A group of four to five people forced their way inside the mission early morning, locked up the assistant priest and shot Moylan dead.
The Don Bosco group of Roman Catholic priests said he had been shot twice, in the stomach and chest. And the attackers left pamphlets at the spot that said the Nepal Defence Army was responsible for the killing. The Hindu group claims it is training suicide squads to restore Hinduism as the state religion.
The last rites of 60-year-old Moyalan will be held in the Bandel Church of India’s West Bengal state, the order said.
Moyalan’s murder inside the mission created ripples with the Vatican too taking note of the slaying of its priest.
Hailing from Ollur village of Kerala in India, Moyalan had entered the service of the Roman Catholic church when he was only 19. After serving in Bangalore and Hyderabad cities in India, he came to Nepal in 1996.
Four years later, his order opened a mission in Sirsia to work for the uplift of Santhals and other underprivileged members of the Hindu community regarded as low-castes.
It opened a primary school of which the priest served as principal. According to reports, the school had been receiving extortion calls from underground armed groups active in the turbulent Terai plains.
This is the first killing of a Christian priest in Nepal.
Before the pro-democracy movement in 1990, the church had to contend with deep distrust by the government when preaching and conversions were a punishable offence.
Though the former Hindu kingdom of Nepal has eased religious curbs since then, some of the churches in south Nepal came under Maoist attack during the communist insurgency for not meeting the insurgents’ demands for money.
Last year, Nepal’s parliament declared the country a secular state, a proclamation hailed by the religious minorities.
However, the security situation in south Nepal has begun to worsen after the April el
More — Hindus are fighting it out in Nepal
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0530/p04s01-wosc.html
A communist attempt to rewrite Nepalese History
Nepal is not an inherited land of Hindus
Prakash Bom, USA
We Nepalese people have after the successful historical people’s movements – ‘half a century long Socialist Democratic Evolution’ tried to understand the declaration of secular democratic Nepal with our reasoning, with our eagerness we have tried to revisit our nation’s history, with our curiosity we have tried to find the truth about our religious practice and traditions that have confined us to the poorest social, economic and political conditions.
People’s Rational for Declaration:
Rationally, if we honestly ask ourselves, “Who are Nepali people in the first place of our existence?” The obvious answer will be that Nepali people are not other than human beings who deserve basic human rights protections as per the United Nations’ Universal Human Rights Declaration (1948). Then after we are bona fide citizens of a sovereign nation of which sovereignty rests in us with the guarantee of our civil liberty as proclaimed by the Interim Constitution (2007).
Of course, we are happened to born with different ethnicities in different regions of the county living together with differences yet in unity for the common cause. We are conditioned with our different ethnic identity based on languages and dialects, religion, belief and ritual, tradition and rites, social values and practice (Ethnic Demography of Nepal 1996). Can we come out of it all and stand as a free individual human being? Surely as an individual we can but our society cannot liberate over night. This is our utter reality thus we need our government firm with its declaration to treat us without marginalizing none by providing equal opportunities in every aspect of our social, political and economic life. It is time to restructure our nation for us to participate in nation building process; for us to be able to live together in our society by the rule of law that is legislated by us.
Certainly if Nepal is to be declared as the ‘Hindu’ state then that will not help us to live together with these different ethnic diversities and religious faiths in unity for the whole nation. It will rather be discriminative of one from another as per its premise of caste system and hierarchical religious supremacy. Practice of Hindu religion in Nepal fundamentally based on feudalism and oligarchic hierarchism. This is the religion of an elites group of people, who have dominated the political, soc
Hi friends,
Have u gone thro. the recent rantings of the King of Pseudos U.R.A on Hindus reg. Mangalore violence.This guy feels that he is ashamed of being a Kannada woriter!He has used choicest of language to degrade Hindus and Hinduism.Bugger talking high of Missionaries as if they are next to god.This Scum of soil should be sent out of Karnataka as early as possible.
[...] With this inter community initiative seizing the issue by its horn, its time the national debate was turned to the War on Terror. [...]
“Govt says POTA is draconian.”
When we are dealing with Draculas, we need Draconian laws to deal with them.
Govt’s mantra: Talk tough, act soft
After raising hopes that it was ready to take hard measures to contain terrorism, the Government on Thursday announced a series of token decisions and ruled out bringing in any tough anti-terror POTA-type law. It was also silent on strengthening the existing legislative provisions to strike at the root of terror.
http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=front%5Fpage&file_name=story2%2Etxt&counter_img=2
Centre to invoke Art 355, warn Orissa, Karnataka
Pioneer News Service n New Delhi
Unable to tackle terror, UPA targets NDA
http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=front%5Fpage&file_name=story1%2Etxt&counter_img=1
While the NDA was in power, the number of overall terrorist incidents was much higher. None can forget the brazen attack on Parliament. It was providential that terrorists could not succeed because of the bravery of our security personnel. Neither the POTA nor the then Home Minister, allegedly tough on terror, could stop these attacks. During NDA’s rule, terror strikes targeted the J&K Legislative Assembly, Red Fort, Raghunath Temple,
Chattisinghpura, Akshardham, Kaluchak and Amarnath Yatris.
Terrorism was in full play despite the POTA: a convenient instrument in the hands of certain chief ministers in BJP ruled states, who terrorised common citizens and targeted members of a particular community.
Could it ever be argued that the NDA Government was tough on terror, when having proclaimed zero tolerance towards terrorism, they let loose Maulana Masood Azhar, Omar Sheikh and Mushtaq Ahmed Zargar and had the then Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh escort them to Kandahar in their safe passage to Pakistan. The consequence was that Maulana Masood Azhar formed the Jaish-e-Mohammed, a terrorist organization, which targeted the Parliament in December 2001, besides targeting innocent victims in India. By that one act alone, the NDA government demonstrated their softness towards Terror despite the POTA.
Omar Sheikh went on to claim the life of Daniel Pearl, with his barbaric execution. Besides, the NDA remitted sentences of five Latvian nationals and Peter Bleach of UK; all convicted in the Purulia arms drop case, which was essentially a case of waging war against India.
Dear blr_p
So far as Israel is concerned – I dont think you have been reading the papers they got badly screwed by Lebanon in the last war.
Israel cannot survive a week without US support from the US Jew lobby.
Incidently though many bigotted Hindus are busy ass licking the Jews for their attempts to “contain ” Muslims, what is not reported is the arrogance of the orthodox Jews- they consider Hinduism a shitty religion andwould love to kiss their ass given a chance.
I have spent enough time in the Israel and Palestine territories to know that the Israeli Jews would get no where without American money so stop blabbering about how great their army is and all that…
Dont forget Mossad also came to Kashmir and the Kashmiris taught them a lesson they will not be forgetting in a while.
travel the world, see whats happening, pull your head out of your ass hole it appears to be stuck, smelling holy Hindu shit.
PLEASE RE READ KABIL SIBAL ( I AM NOT A FAN OF HIS OR THE BJP -CONGRESS- CPI-CPIM-RJD-BSP ETC ETC BUT HE HAS A POINT
Could it ever be argued that the NDA Government was tough on terror, when having proclaimed zero tolerance towards terrorism, they let loose Maulana Masood Azhar, Omar Sheikh and Mushtaq Ahmed Zargar and had the then Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh escort them to Kandahar in their safe passage to Pakistan. The consequence was that Maulana Masood Azhar formed the Jaish-e-Mohammed, a terrorist organization, which targeted the Parliament in December 2001, besides targeting innocent victims in India. By that one act alone, the NDA government demonstrated their softness towards Terror despite the POTA.
Omar Sheikh went on to claim the life of Daniel Pearl, with his barbaric execution. Besides, the NDA remitted sentences of five Latvian nationals and Peter Bleach of UK; all convicted in the Purulia arms drop case, which was essentially a case of waging war against India.