The cancer it seems is now terminal with no cure in sight. With a Government that wont learn from its mistakes nor see the folly of its ways it is no longer enough to to talk of Anti-Terrorism as a policy of the State but to think of Anti-Terrorism as a sustained people’s movement that will be uncompromising and unrelenting.
If Gandhi’s Satyagraha was to fight Terrorism on the people of this nation by the State, by intent, this 21st century Satyagraha is to fight Terrorism on the people of this nation despite the State, by default.
So How would this Satyagraha be unlike the the previous one form the century gone by ?
Gandhi answers it for us very eloquently. Offstumped had posted this Gandhian Doctrine to guide on?responding to Terrorism?several times in the past based on a reading of Gandhi and the Gita where he expounds on the principle of “Desireless Action”. If “Ahimsa” was the mantra for the Satyagraha to battle British Terrorism in the 20th century, “Anasakata” and “Karma” should become the twin mantras for the Satyagraha in this century to battle the twin evils of Terrorism and the State’s indifference to Terrorism.
Quoting from this Offstumped post in the aftermath of the 7-11 Mumbai Blasts on the morality of pre-emption and the immorality of inaction
as India debates its response to terror, it must be purely guided by its primary duty to its citizens and not by any other moral considerations. The State must not take recourse to inaction under the cover of the resilience of its people. More specifically the State when in posession of legitimate intelligence on intentions of terrorist to hurt and kill its citizens must act proactively to pre-empt, such pre-emption is morally consciable for the alternative is willing inaction which is immoral. The state must not rule out going to war against terrorism in fulfilling its duty as long as it does so fully mindful of its consequences and has demonstrated the capacity to accept those consequences with equanimity
So how can we take these principles and apply them to a people’s movement??
The Satyagraha against Terrorism must have the following characteristics.
Characteristic# 1 – It must be unrelenting in the demands it makes of the State to compel it into action on Terrorism pre-emptively or otherwise.
Characteristic# 2 – It must be uncompromising in its intolerance of not just perpetrators of acts of terror but also of those who aid and abet terror by providing sanctuary to those perpetrators.
Characteristic# 3 – It must be self sustaining in its execution through local community action directed at vigilance and audit of local law enforcement
Characteristic #4 – It must be Dharmic at all times by being “desireless” in its actions
A beginning must be made someplace for this Satyagraha against Terrorism to take root. A good starting point could be Bangalore. Of all Indian Cities, Offstumped records the highest traffic from Bangalore. Perhaps Offstumped readers in Bangalore could take the first step.
But to make it national and to have the necessary impact on the State, this Satyagraha requires moral Leadership at the national level. Mr. L.K. Advani has provided that kind of moral leadership in the past in the wake of Jain Hawala scandal by vowing to not seek elected office till he was proven innocent. The situation in the nation demands such a sacrifice once again of Mr. Advani to make this Satyagraha impactful. He must appropriate the moral high ground by vowing to not seek any entitlements from the State including his security cover till this Satyagraha against Terrorism has shamed the Manmohan Singh Government into action.
Offstumped appeals to Mr. Advani to seize the moment and provide that moral leadership to this Satyagraha.
Filed under: War on Terror
The terrorists must be laughing all the way to Pakistani banks looking at the tepid response from Indian janata. They want to scare Indians; but then how do scare those who are already dead.
Going thro’ Ahmed Rashid “descent into chaos”/
THE FUTURE OF INDIA IS EXTREMELY BLEAK in the face of Islamists, Jehadis growing menace in and around India.
The primary blame goes to media who have little idea about the real agenda, goal of these assorted jehadi, terrorist groups.
Our politicians are screwing public, country like never before.
A VERY DANGEROUS FUTURE AHEAD OF INDIA.
ONLY WAY TO SAVEGUARD IT IS TO CUTURALLY CONFRONT THESE JEHADIS, TERRORISTS AND CONFRONT THEM ON EQUAL FOOT.
An all out error is needed- but media and politicians areunable to provide leadership for muslim votebank and distorted priorities.
I am pretty depressed that the Home ministry had the chutzpah to say “We warned them the day before!”, as if they think they can wash their hands of all responsibility!
When the centre and state do not cooperate, it just makes the nation softer than ever. I know the SIMI bhaiyyalog have just tied rakhee on Madame Sonia, but still…I guess I don’t have to say much about it, after all, look at the way Chhattisgarh government has implemented original programs to try and combat naxalism, and all the Centre can do is either blame the state for security problems, or protest because a program like Salwa Judam pits “villager against villager”…but there are no solutions to be had.
WHAT KIND OF ACTION DO YOU EXPECT THE UPA GOVT TO TAKE? THEY THEMSELVES ARE AT THE MERCY OF CONVICTED CRIMINAL MPs WHO WERE BRIBED SO THAT UPA COULD STAY IN POWER. DON’T EXPECT ANY HELP FROM UPA.
WE NEED MODI JI TO LEAD THE COUNTRY.
yossarin: your 4 point prescription for curing this illness is pure fantasy. Begging Advani for leadership reeks of politics. Didn’t he hand a Secular Certificate to Jinnah? Stop believing all the hooting on this blog. There’s folks who want the same end – whack the terrorists – as you but are disgusted with your message and your method.
Libertarian – i thought fantasies were the flavor of the season, the audacity of hope and all. The rest of ur comment is confusing. Who exactly is disgusted and why ?
Libertarian is disgusted because of your violent ways and methods of dealing with poor terrorists who are merely setting the historical deprivations right. The state should release all Jihadis, Maoists and all others so that they capture power very peacefully like in Nepal and BINGO you have no terrorists cause they will then be our rulers, just as in Nepal. Learn something dear Yossarin from the just and peaceful states all around us!
yossarin: I’m disgusted. You’re using a tragedy to push your political preference for Advani and the BJP. The people died and those who were injured deserve a little better than that.
As for your message: it’s garbled by arcane references instead of getting to the point – which is to kick the butts of the guys who did this. Your high-minded fantasy of satyagaraha (from Bangalore – no less!) probably has the cowards who did this laughing all the way to the bomb factory. Here’s an article that captures the essence of our behavior.
Libertarian – Now you have me even more confused.
As far as terrorism and the political biases of this blog go, it is well chronicled and does not need a defence.
http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008/02/09/sonia-gandhi-manmohan-singh-anti-terrorism-record/
But let me engage you nevertheless for “disgust” is not a healthy sentiment to start this satyagraha.
The victims of this and every other attack of mass terror that preceeded this deserve justice. Those in power who have the constitutional responsibility to deliver that justice have been criminally delinquent for not 1 or 2 but 11 such incidents over the last 4 years. You are complaining that my appeal to the Opposition to shame the government into action to deliver justice is “using the tragedy” ?
What would you rather have me do, appeal for communal harmony, deliver a sermon on national integration and praise the resilience of Bangalore for showing up to work tomorrow morning and then conclude that we are like this only and get on ?
I am afraid my friend your emotions are clouding your judgement.
The second part of your comment is even more confused.
Have you reflected on the question of why there are no political costs to the UPA for its pathetic anti-terror record ?
It is because beyond a momentary sense of outrage there is no sustained public pressure on the government to ac, not even after the worst attack of this decade in Mumbai.
How do you raise the political costs ?
Only by a sustained public campaign.
Not sure what your prescription is for Anti-Terrorism for I see a very muddled thought process here that is lost between a politically correct emotional response and a righteous urge to kick the terrorists butt.
Btw the story made no sense to me. Not sure how a guy calling for war between India and Pakistan captures the essence of my behavior
yossarin: The victims of this and every other attack of mass terror that preceeded this deserve justice. Those in power who have the constitutional responsibility to deliver that justice have been criminally delinquent for not 1 or 2 but 11 such incidents over the last 4 years. You are complaining that my appeal to the Opposition to shame the government into action to deliver justice is “using the tragedy” ?
And why would Advani and Co. be any different? Remember Kandahar – and Jaswant Singh – and how much pain Masood Azhar and Co. caused us after that? How about Vajpayee on a bus to Lahore while Kargil was being planned? And then there’s Advani himself waxing eloquent about Jinnah. Advani is compromised by his inconsistency. He is ill-suited to taking the moral highground on this issue. Absent a clear case for Advani leading this moral charge (the case is far from clear to me) it follows that it is politics.
This is not to defend MMS and Sonia Maino – they’re worse than pathetic.
What would you rather have me do, appeal for communal harmony, deliver a sermon on national integration and praise the resilience of Bangalore for showing up to work tomorrow morning and then conclude that we are like this only and get on?
No. But “appealing” to Advani to help “raise political costs” is not it either. Trying to get a moribund political establishment to be accountable through a satyagraha – that’s fiddling while Banagalore/Mumbai/Delhi/Varanasi burn. This is a war – it requires a formal declaration – Narayanan made the first hopeful sounds in early July. If I heard that the babus and netas were engaging the Israelis on this, it would be quite comforting.
Btw the story made no sense to me. Not sure how a guy calling for war between India and Pakistan captures the essence of my behavior
My words were “our behavior” (self included). The point was about us reacting like wimps. We’ll make brave sounds for a few days. Then we’ll forget – till the next incident. Makes one feel emasculated.
Dudeyour logic is getting circular. mms/maino is no good. Lka is no good. But u want a formal declaration of war by the political establishment
the NSA’s belated outrage is reminiscent of those cop movies where the cops fiddle till one of their own take a bullet and then all of sudden u see moral outrage and a sense of purpose. Engaging the taliban and al-qaeda in a formal war is beyond indian imagination right now atleast the political imagination. The war must begin at home first.the government wont do it. You and i can rave and rant all day on this blog but that wont do either. The political costs must be raised. Who best than the political opposition to raise these costs. But you worry about political dividends, but that is the essence of democracy. There will be dividends for those who stand up and take a stance and make credible sacrifices so that stance counts for something. Hence my appeal was not merely an empty appeal for more political rallies and protests. It came with an important rider – renounce all entitlements including security cover. Why begrudge political dividends that accrue to someone who is willing to risk and incur personal costs knowing ?
Sorry for posting off topic material.
Guys, this is shocking. Rajnath scuttled BJP attempts during the trust vote.
BJP has to fire this guy if they want to have any chance to doing well in the next election.
This is internal sabotage. No wonder media was talking about a split in the BJP.
BJP hits a trough after the Karnataka crest
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/BJP_hits_a_trough_after_the_Karnataka_crest/articleshow/3281846.cms
Party observers attribute the current situation not so much to infighting, that ailment which continues to bog the leadership, as to internal sabotage. Ever since Mr L K Advani was named the NDA’s prime ministerial candidate, BJP president Rajnath Singh, wary of being pushed to the margins, has been striving hard to make his presence felt. There are thus two centres of power within the party, each pulling in opposition directions.
There is now also a nagging suspicion that proceedings at the core group meetings held from time to time were being leaked to government managers, allowing them to pre-empt moves initiated by the BJP.
That the party leaders were working at cross-purposes was evident from the manner in which they failed to snatch the JMM away from the UPA camp. It now transpires that there was a deliberate delay in getting back to Mr Shibu Soren after initiating talks with him. Precious time was lost in conveying NDA’s readiness to accept Guruji’s terms, allowing the UPA strategists enough time and leeway to lure their estranged colleague back.
Those in the know of things blame the BJP president for botching efforts to wean the JMM away. Known for his proximity to former Jharkhand chief minister Arjun Munda, Mr Singh resisted efforts to bring back Mr Babulal Marandi to the party fold. It’s the same factor that is believed to have been at work in torpedoing a deal with the JMM.
Arjun – you are falling for the jholawallah trap. There are atleast half dozen stories which blame advani while sympathising with rajnath and another half on on dozen stories which blame rajnath while painting advani a sorry figure, most notably shekhar gupa in the IE. Its the indian media’s bjp obsession all over again, and this time the new delhi’s jholawallahs are trying to strike back with a vengeance. If all this armchair punditry were accurate then it truly is a miracle that a rudderless divided bjp suffering internal sabotage won nearly every election in recent memory as opposed to a united congress with undiminished loyalty to sonia gandhi losing every election in recent memory.
Advani and Modi share one trait and it is that they dont suffer no fools especially the jhola donning ones. The jholawallahs dont like. They have 2 main goals in life. First was to hit modi by sting or stink, that failed. Advani is a tougher nut to crack given his impeccable integrity so they have to hit where it hurts by trying to pain him as weak and lacking control. Their goal to stop him from becoming Prime Minister at any cost. They will do a Modi on him but with a difference. They will use the jinnah episode as a template to make him look weak and lonely.
So take it easy this is familiar terrain.
Yossarin, what is the giving credence to this story is that people like Swapan Dasgupta have time and agin referred to this kind of sabotage which will prevent Advani from becoming PM.
As recently as Sunday, Swapan was talking about subterfuge. Swapan is so close to the party that he took part in the secret chintan baithak between RSS and BJP recently held in Ahmedabad.
I do not think BJP is divided. BJP is still strong and has the capacity of pulling out of the current mess. But I have a feeling that Rajnath is running his own agenda.
From Swapan Dasgupta’s review of Advani’s book:
“Most ominously, there appears to be a Great Wall separating the party organisation and an Advani organisation. Both appear to be working autonomously and, sometimes, at cross-purposes.”
If you read
Arjun it is age old trap!! It should be outright rejected!!
Alright guys. If you say so
Arjun – i wont claim any special knowledge on the internal affairs of the bjp. All i can say to quote shekhar gupta its the most democratic with maximum tolerance for dissent. It is natural there is multiplicity of opinion and a competitive atmosphere of aspirations. The problem with our public discourse is we dont quite know how to deal with this kind of atmosphere for it is unlike the high command and centralize control structure of every other party in india. This is very much like the party system in the US where there is no culture of high command. The dissent and multiplicity of opinion in the bjp is a strength not a weakness. The timid jholawallahs dont understand it or dont want to acknowledge it.
Political Costs have to be raised.In a democracy, political costs can be raised by opposition. The moral quotient of the opposition could come under attack when they are in charge of governance. But Satyagraha should not be posturing. BJP’s record on tackling terrorism except of Modi remains abysmal. Recent pronouncements of Modi is a clue. He identifies the contribution of Mahatma Gandhi in the freedom movement as converting the movement as a mass movement. I think he has tried and succeeded in making the anti – terrorism movement as a people’s movement. The riots were a product of this. In any war there is collateral damage, killing of innocents is that. You can bet that in a democracy, the collateral damage is minimal. Except for Narendra Modi Model, nothing else will succeed against islamic terrorism. This is a naked truth. Some may not like but many would pretend not liking it.
Twas only when parliament got attacked, when the VVIPs got physically threatened, that war almost happened between India and Pak.
Whilst aam janta perishes, nothing happens.
Or maybe nothing seems to happen. The successes of our agencies lie shrouded in secrecy. Only the failures see the light of day.
Yossarin, Gujjuman, If you remember, Modi had throw a fit to get Jaitley to manage Gujarat elections. The same is true for Karnataka and Yedurappa.
IMHO, circumstantial evidence against Rajnath is there working at cross purposes is there.
While references to Gandhi might have confused some of your readers, you make an excellent tactical point.
Regardless of the values that have represented India in the past, a significant discourse of the twentieth century, for many complicated reasons, was dominated by Gandhian thought.
Whether or not Gandhi’s values are worthy of cherishing, two entire generations have grown up believing in the so-called Gandhian ideals.
Although I personally would not care for a Satyagraha in this situation, I still wholeheartedly support your recommendation to Mr. Advani, for the near future.
While the merits of this specific action can be debated, inaction is no longer an option.
Yossarin…
Every idea has it’s own time, when Gandhi launched his SATYAGRAHA in South Africa in fading years of the 19 th Century, it was required then in absence of ANY support,rights for the Indian community there. Like wise when he started it in India in the early 20th Century, that was the only possible way then.
I firmly believe that it was effective till a time. Look what mess his non violent methods have created in the run up to our Independence:
1. His non violent methods were twisted,subverted by Jinnah leading to many VIOLENT acts perpetrated on NON MUSLIMS
2.We all know what role his NON VIOLENT methods played during the eve and immediately after our Independence, by this I mean the ETHNIC CLEANSING OF NON MUSLIMS, which took place then.The Non Muslim refugees who came to India, are a testimony to this.Whereas the Muslims whose went to their HOLY land and the ones who remained here were largely un molested.
3.Nehru blinded with this same faith in Non Violent means, adopted the PANCHSHEEL policy, wherein we were deeply humiliated by the Chinese and more importantly we had to cede territory to them.They have done it once and they are confident that can browbeat us in doing it again.
I have not understood by your using the word SATYAGRAHA in the Bomb blast context. By this if you mean the same Gandhi style Satyagraha, I am afraid we are doomed.
IMO, the Satyagraha movement has left deep impression on NON HINDUS, that we will not stand up for our rights. Dont get me wrong, But this is what currently all NON HINDUS think of us. Else, in SECULAR state(??) why would anybody (NON HINDUS) not jump to our support in opposition to the Sethusamudram issue, tell me, have you ever seen a single article,heard a sound bite about NON HINDUS saying ” OK if the mere mention of the word Ram sethu hurts the feelings and sensibilities of the Hindus, JUST DROP IT”.
No mate, No none of these so called secularists have said so and what do we Hindus do, the Danish PM who was to come on a STATE VISIT , his trip is cancelled, coz one of his country men, cartooned the prophet of islam. The decision to call of the Danish PM ’s visit was taken by whom…A Sikh PM, Hindu and Christian members of his cabinet, government respecting Muslim sensibilities.
They forgot that very same Denmark which has donated money maybe 30 -40 years ago, so that our country progesses.
AS I said, every thought,idea has its own time frame and such terror strikes dont call for a gandhian satyagraha.
Correct me if I am wrong..
The terror strikes in India have to be seen through the prism of jihad which was waged in India over centuries. In that way it is not as if it something new. It is the manifestation of “clash of civilizations” that Samuel Huntington has alluded to.
So, we can just contain it some extent since there is a rise in Islamic fundamentalism in the Indian subcontinent and also in the larger Islamic world. The rise of Islamism in Pakistan, Bangladesh is bound to have deleterious effect in India.
So we have to gird up for a long fight. The basic things to is to improve policing and intelligence collection.
Arjun has summed up the approach to handling the terrorism menace quite well ! It has to be long and coordinated fight to control this menace…
All the votaries of knee-jerk reaction and seekers of political mileage (on any damn issue) are doing a great disservice to the nation !
Suddenly, as the CASHGATE was wearing-off – this group has latched on a new beating stick – TERRORISM. bjp-LED NDA, and Advani in particular, have dubious track record to take on the Govt or for that matter anyone else to make a political issue out of it. There are several reasons for it as listed below :-
1. The State Govt plays a very important role in checking Terrorism, aprt from the Cnetral Govt. The last two terrorist attacks – in Rajasthan and now in Bangalore – happened in BJP-ruled States with the State machinery looking like fools. Non-withstanding all the brim & fire – BJP has to accept the larger portion of the blame on its head for not being able to check terrorism
2. Even during the NDA rule at the Centre – some of the ghastliest terrist attacks took place – the worst of them was in the Parliment. The Parliament attack was an absolute shame for NDA
3. The worst form of terrorist abbetment (Kandahar) happened during the NDA rule. The Parliament attack and the Kandhahar episode were worst possible instances of NDA Govt’s faliure in cecking terrorism
4. BJP’s “highly touted” silver bullet – POTA to check terrorism has been a highly narrow-minded approach to solving this problem.
BAJ CANNOT FOOL INDIAN MASSES BY TRYING TO PROJECT ITS RESOLVE TO CHECK TERRORISM. ADVANI HAS MADE ENOUGH FOOL OF HIMSELF AND HIS PARTY IN RECENT TIMES. HE SHOULD PICK UP A DIFFERENT POLITICAL ISSUE TO TOPPLE THE GOVT – SOMETHINg IN WHICH IT HAS SOME CREDIBILITY LEFT (CANNOT BE MANDIR AGAIN SINCE NO BOBY WILL BELIEVE IT)
We also strong laws and demonstrated political will.
Must read this article :-
http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?leftnm=10&bKeyFlag=BO&autono=329686
This is one of the most crappiest article. The guy is just declaring some guys losers and winners using some random yardsticks. I do not know if the article even requires any careful consideration as it is so replete with blatant presumptions. Advani is a loser..Lalu is a winner..Mayawati is a loser..Omar is a winner..biggest winner is MMS..what the hell is this…is there some reasoning or just wishful thinking? I do not now the guy who has written this, so, would not venture to make any claims about the motivations behind this article.
Why do not you outline some of the tenets of this long and co-ordinated fight to control this menace? It is quite difficult to comprehend why accusing the government of going soft on the terrorism is doing great disservice to nation. Regarding your accusation that the BJP does not have a better record on the terrorism as the role of the state is of prime importance in maintaining the law and order and two recent bomb blasts have happened in the BJP ruled states proves that the record of BJP is as worse as the other parties, you have concealed more than what you have revealed. Out of the 11 bomb blasts that have happened in the UPA government tenure, the number of bomb blasts taken place in BJP states versus other UPA ruled states might have been more relevant. Secondly, apart from the bomb blasts, what is also equally, if not more, important is the response after the bomb blast. If you remember, after Raje government got tough on the shady areas where these crimes were germinating and prospering, suddenly none other than the home minister went all out in the defense of the illegal Bangaldesi immigrants. Also, the attempts for the state governments to enact laws like POTA have been successfully scuttled by the UPA administration in the center. The state does not have a sound intelligence and to assist them in this task is Intelligence bureau, however, what has been very glaring in these bomb blasts is the intelligence failure. Now, this IB is controlled by the central government and it is this laxity by the central government in adopting strong steps to strengthen the IB that is being criticised here. The two instances of terrorist activities that you pointed out during the BJP time may be debated. However, a little reflection shows that the basic problem with the UPA govt is the appeasement policies whereby MMS loses his sleep and all. It is this appeasement that deserves criticism.
Just was tipped off by some informed sources that Bhalla is a well known ‘liberal obsessed’ appeasement supporter, psec and using the garb of his academic credentials airs views on things well beyond his comprehension.
In a fragmanted political scenario during this coalition era – a firm approach to handling terrorism looks remote – where BJP and Congress refuse to develop a National consensus on this matter ! Political opportunism displayed by the larger parties like Congress and BJP prevents development of National Consensus on matters of National Importance like N-deal or Terrorism !
Instead of trying to hold a “Satyagrah on Terrorism” – which will again reek of political expediency – Advani should approach the UPA & the Left and seek to develop a national consesus on this matter – if he is really serious about solving this menace.
UNFORTUNATELY, GIVEN HIS RECENT STAND ON N-DEAL, HE IS UNLIKELY TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY THE CONGRESS.
“Advani should approach the UPA & the Left and seek to develop a national consensus on this matter – if he is really serious about solving this menace.”
Fellas…This guy fails me….to ask the UPA and the Left who themselves are neck deep into MINORITY APPEASEMENT, why they would never ever permit any move to HURT the Minorities….
If LKA approaches any one these leaches, he will sign the death warrant for the MAJORITY COMMUNITY.
WE are better off on our own, bring in POTA back and this time around add some more teeth to it, so that sympathizers are even incarcerated.
There is a need to build good governance on the convergence between the Congress and the BJP, at least on crucial policy issues.
There is very little to choose between the Congress and BJP when it comes to agendas, which is precisely why Lal Krishna Advani, “willing to wound, and yet afraid to strike”, made a mess of his case, never able to rise above diatribe. He wants to claim credit for a repackaged 123 agreement but such sophistication was lost on his currency-brandishing henchmen.
Jaswant Singh picked up the Israel ball after Rajiv Gandhi and P.V. Narasimha Rao set it rolling. Vajpayee started the economic and strategic talks with Singapore that allowed Manmohan Singh to finalize the comprehensive economic cooperation agreement and three significant defence pacts. Vajpayee first hailed the United States of America as India’s “natural ally”. He acknowledges his debt in nuclear policy to Narasimha Rao who inherited the decision from Rajiv Gandhi who, in turn, derived inspiration from Pokhran I. Despite its concern for energy, the UPA would have no qualms about endorsing the National Democratic Alliance’s enunciation of Pokhran II’s military objectives.
There is even closer agreement on economic issues. Those with long memories may recall Vajpayee accusing Narasimha Rao of stealing the BJP’s economic clothes. Those in the know of current affairs are aware that P. Chidambaram has no quarrel with the BJP general secretary and Bangalore MP, Ananth Kumar, who chairs the standing committee on finance. The objection to this system of understanding at the top and a huge chasm below is not that it is elitist but that it exposes the leadership on both sides to the mercy of hoi polloi with little grasp of (or interest in) necessary measures like the pending bills to enhance the voting rights of foreign players in proportion to their stake in private sector banks, raise the cap on foreign equity in insurance firms from 26 to 49 per cent and allow private sector participation in the pension sector.
After the Trust Vote, the battle has been won. But with the Left Front on the warpath, the BJP licking its wounds, Mayavati determined not to be done out of third front laurels and Amar Singh beginning to feel his oats, the war has just begun. The bigger war is with the gangland that threatens to engulf us all and drown all values and standards. It can be averted not by framing more laws to be evaded, avoided or subverted but by clear headed political leaders & supporters on both sides of the Congress-BJP divide.
SERIAL BLAST IN GUJARAT
THIS IS A DEEP CONSPIRACY
WHAT YOU EXPECT IF OUR “NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR,IB CHIEF, CBI CHIEF” ARE BUSY IN SAVING THE GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF COUNTRY.
JUST READ THIS ARTICLE.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/PoliticsNation/The_dream_team_of_Congress/articleshow/3266759.cms
The dream team of Congress
23 Jul, 2008, 0132 hrs IST, ET Bureau
The Congress put its best players on the field, so as to not miss a catch or runout. The match was won by 19 runs. Here’s the Congress dream team:
M K Narayanan: The NSA took a break from anti-terror sermons on TV and played a key negotiating role with new allies, jotting down demands and ensuring that these reached Sonia Gandhi’s desk well before new-found friends were ushered in to meet the Congress president.
P C Haldar: The IB chief was the logistics man whose men kept an eye on the most vulnerable MPs in the flock. Besides organising the venue for many a secret rendezvous, he kept IB guest houses ready for secret meetings that led to the thaw between the Congress and the SP. He also brought in Mehbooba on a special plane from Srinagar for UPA.
CBI chief Vijay Shanker : His Master’s Minder. Just a few months ago, he had almost given Mayawati a clean chit in the disproportionate assets case, but once the Congress-SP deal was signed, did a somersault and reopened cases against the BSP chief, even as he is about to exonerate Mulayam and family members in the disproportionate assets cases. The man obviously has no need for a fig leaf.
T K A Nair: The busiest season so far for the man who was otherwise comfortable being chief guest at Malayali festivals in the capital. Addressed grievances of new allies, was part of the negotiations so knew the demands of each and ensured that secretaries and government babus acted on these demands.
The Wheeler Dealers: In the era of coalition governments, their tribe is increasing. It’s in razor thin situations that their skills are particularly put to test. They walk around pots of money, possess immense ability to organise meetings at short notice.
The Spin Master: The prime minister is “reluctant” to play the numbers game goes the spin, when the reality is that Manmohan Singh individually called up even one MP parties to seek support. They regularly supply SMS story briefs to embedded friends. It was the spin master who convinced the prime minister to be all things to all people: he sought Akali support invoking his Punjabi origin and AGP support as a Rajya Sabha MP from Assam.
THIS IS WAR ON INDIA…..
Now Ahmedabad, 8 blasts more deadlier then Bangalore.
This is war….
Shakeel Ahmed, Minister of State for Home affairs, saying that WE have informed all states and Gujarat Govt. is responsible.
WTF, How come all state governments refuse to accept that no warning comes from the centre …..
This Congress govt. will destroy our country….
INDIA is in ICU now.
WE MUST FIGHT BACK.
INDIAN MUJAHIDEEN claims responsibility, they warn Mumbai next target.
Times Now reporter says, BJP’s claim of being tough on terror proving to be hollow, third attack in 3 months in BJP ruled state.
WTF, These secularists can go to any extent to prove their point….
It doesnt take genius to understand that attacks are taking place all around India, its not one particular state or one particular party ruled state that is under attach,, its a attack on republic of India.
Has modi fallen to the bait of p.secs and held back pre-emptive strikes ala sohrabbuddin? then we should admit our failure as a nation. If Modi has failed there is little hope for India. There is despair all around. We need a Bismarck or Gari baldi.
S.Sundararaman….
mate…some body is gonna pay very heavily for this…
Just wait and watch…..
The state cannot pre empt an attack without active inputs by the central intelligence agencies, which I am now CONVINCED are under pressure from the ruling parties to pipe down assitance to BJP ruled states.
With elections round the corner and knowing the character of the ruling party it is quite possible.
amit shah , home minister of gujarat blasts shakeel ahmed on his claim of that the states were warned.
The home minister clarified if you send general warnings it does not help we need specific information. UPA govt sends intel reports like weather reports.
he has demanded the local POTA law be allowed.
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Serial Blasts in Gujarat, ordered from 10 Janpath. Hey RoW, KoW how many pegs of liquor you are getting from the traitor secular dogs to get your ass on this site. By the way YOUR POOR SHAME-NATH CHATTER-JEE IS A BIGGEST DALAL. hOW DO ANYBODY EXPECT ibn AND THE BELLY DANCER SLURDESAI TO SHOW THE TAPES.
YOSS BOSS WHEN RoW, JUJUNG LIBERTARIAN ARE ALLOWED ON THE SITE, WHY THE COMMENTS SHOWING THEIR TRUE WORTH, WHAT THESE ARE ARE DELETED.
Is Speaker a chamcha of the chamcha-giri empress?
26/07/2008 00:29:35
News Report : Money transferred through Speaker’s office: Yechury
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Sitaram Yechury has made a startling disclosure that money for the trust vote from the untrustworthies was made through Speaker’s office. So much for the honesty of the CPM MP who graduated from the party into an above-party super-speaker. Was he also a chamcha of the chamcha-giri empress?
What are the bets that this scam will be handed over to CBI (Congress Bureau of Investigation) and NSA Narayanan? Such a move will be in the fitness of things. Both are chamcha-s who can call Sitaram Yechury for a deposition under oath in Speaker’s office.
There is no other way. THE DRUNKARD SRIPRAKASH JAISWAL, AND THE GUTTER BLOODED MAINOMOHAN ARE JUST BUSY LICKING THE SHITPOTS TO PAY ATTENTION TO INDIA. NOW IT IS TIME FOR PAYBACK. HEY RoW ACN WE HAVE A ONE TO ONE MEETING
LKA has often been accused of being ‘willing to wound but not to kill’.
These bum blasts will stop at some point when the balance of public opinion in India changes towards overt and total war.
A war will set us back years economically. But it will also afford a chance to rebuild severely compromised institutions (media, academia, literature and the arts etc). And to round up and kick out Bangladeshis by the 100. The first few batches dealt with sternly will, by induction, stop the hordes in BD from marching in as they’ll know we aren’t tolerating them anymnore. A war will also afford the chance to wipe out the serpent nest called the left front. Dismiss all 3 of its state govts (WB, Kerala, Tripura), try its top leadership for treason in military tribunals. Break the back of the Maoist-church ballet. Oh, a war under a nationalist govt surely does offer opportunity. The danger is also just as real – of going overboard and doing longterm damage.
Soon, we’ll have to choose, I guess.
DETOXIFICATION OF INDIA, REQUIRES THE REMOVAL OF THE SHAKUNI MAMA OF ALL ILLS AFFLICTING INDIA. THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. THIS IS THE REAL SERPENTS NEST SECULARISTS, ISLAMISTS, MAOISTS, COMMUNISTS, CONGRESSISTS, LEFTISTS, ARE ALL ITS SHIT EATING SLAVES.
HOPE THAT THIS TIME THERE WOULD BE PROPER CLEANING.STARTING FROM TOP
It irks and irritates me when people equate Kandahar and Akshardam to the blasts and attacks that have happened now under UPA and say BJP = = UPA. I mean are they deliberately idiotic or just misinformed by MSM?
OK first regarding the release of Masood Azhar. You have a plane sitting on an open landing strip (so no cover). On top of that it is surrounded by tanks, RPGs and SAMs. Further complicating matters, it is all in Afghanistan (land-locked country) that shares borders mainly with Pak and Iran (none great friends of India so to say) and in an interior Afghan city called Kandahar. In this circumstance, not only IA’s Special Forces but even US Amry’s Delta Force or the Russian Spetsnaz’ “alpha unit” will dare to attempt to storm the plane. So what is the alternative you got? Let all the 180 passengers die?
And with regard to akshardam it’s sad that about 30 people died but atleast the pigs who perpetrated the attack were killed.
Am somehow thinking these bums in so many places are practice for something bigger in the future. The pukis are exasperated by unkil’s repeated bombing raids in FATA and NWFP. Their stupid (this has been said publicly by no less than former COAS Mirza Aslam Beg) logic is that it doesn’t matter which country hits them, they will hit back at India. Now with their economy in shambles (inflation > 30%, infuriated people pelting the KSE) I think we maybe close to the endgame. I think the Pukis might want one more confrontation along the border, looks like they are yearning for it and they are not gonna stop with these attacks till we give them what they want. But I don’t think we should oblige them, war will be very very bad for the economy. The main reason they want this conflict might be to shift Unkil’s focus from Pak-Afghan border to Indo-Pak border; sort of signal — see what we are capable of doing if you lay your hands on us.
Y, I agree with the idea of satyagraha. I don’t agree with the idea of removing security esply. for someone like Advani. I think he and Modi are the only 2 politicians in India who need and deserve Z+ security.
Anyway I’m glad that Advani is taking up the issues regarding terrorism after such incidents. Goes a very long way in bringing awareness to common citizens.
I also think as citizens become more and more aware about terrorism and which party can tackle it better not only from their words but from their actions, you will see more votes shifting towards BJP. Then since pols. follows, you will also see Congress slowly changing its stripes.
Satyagraha? What does it means? Does it means Satya and Agraha?
In a nation, where MPs can sale themsevles mass-scale like professional pros*itutes, what value these words like Satyagraha carries? What needed is the unity of patriots and nationalists to remove anti-national, anti-Hindu Congress from power. Congress is the mother Jihadi terrors and riots in Bharat. Unless Congress goes, terror will not go from soil of Bharat.
Cash for Vote scam masters Sonia-Mohan Singh celebrating the blood-bath of Hindus. Tonight they will have good night sleep. They have reason to celebrate. These attacks, perhaps engineered or faciliated by Congress-Jihadi combined forces to divert attention from Cash for Vote scam and fraudulent win in the parliament vote. And why attack only on BJP ruled states Karnataka, Gujarat? So that BJP keep busy with these issues and talk more on terror, and Cash for Vote scam get sidelined. Congress can do anything to stay and grab power. We must realise Cash for Vote scam is much much bigger than Bofors scam. Rajiv paid the price, and SOnia-Mohan SIngh will pay the price. Its matter of time.
Bharat
I was also thinking the same thing that Bharat mentioned…it might seem somewhat far-fetched…but given the low-level intensity of these bombs that were detonated in B’luru & Ahmedabad, so as not to have many innocent citizens killed but @ the same time drive away attention from the Cash-for-Vote scam…as we realize that attention has been driven into the background while the nation’s attention gets diverted to these incidents in rapid succession…that too in BJP ruled states (the one that is so big on security…as per the opponents – read psecs, Congis, Marxists, Mullahs, MSM et al) which will reflect poorly on the party as well its respective govts.
It makes me shake my head in wonder as to how low these anti-Hindu forces can go to hold onto the powers (one that seem to be slipping from their hands as day passes…’coz these forces know that they are not returning to power given their govts’ dismal track record and nothing-to-speak-of performance..or so would I like to think.
Bharat, Sootradhar
I’ve to respectfully disagree. Dont get me wrong, I’m not saying these Kangressis are beneath doing things like these. Hey if they can pull of the bhindranwale scam, they can do anything. But this works against them, the bomb blasts are yet another proof of failure of Kangressi to protect Indian civilians and their jihadi supporting ways. So bomb blasts after cash for vote scam for the kangressis is like ‘out of the frying pan, into the fire’. The hole kangis have dug for themselves, just got deeper.
Home minister refuses to blame anyone
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080058870&ch=7/26/2008%2011:19:00%20PM
Jee i wonder that’s because he would have to blame himself.
shivraj “I do not wish to blame anyone right now, this is not in my capacity and will be wrong to play politics now.”
shouldnt that read
shivraj “I do not wish to blame MYSELF right now, this is not in my capacity and I’VE ALWAYS PLAYED POLITICS WITH NATIONAL SECURITY IT will be wrong to STOP now.”
Aryan…IMO Kaangresis know that, given the passivity of the Indians n esp. Hindus wrt the explosions n sundry other related things…esp the spate of explosions that has been witnessed in recent years…these soon will be forgotten (tell me how many still remember the Deepawali blasts that took place two years back in Delhi or whats the status of investigation of all the similar cases…has any single conviction being obtained…sadly no)…as also as they say: public has a short memory, (thankfully for Kaangrsis n their cohorts)…they know Hindus won’t go out shouting in streets with the media as well as human-rights organizations by their side, they – the Hindus – won’t hold the govt to ransom or the govt won’t kow-tow to their demands n ‘hurt-feelings’…so they can get away with these kinds of ‘treasonous’ acts…they know that in the next elections, even if they don’t have the requisite numbers to form the govt they can still cobble up a motley coalition of like-minded (read anti-Hindu) parties to keep the ‘communal forces’ out of the govt to preserve ’sickularism’…and so it goes on and on.
Five persons injured in blasts in Jharkhand…again a “low-level” intensity blasts…as NaMo as well as Yoss Boss mentioned…this seems indeed like a ‘war’ against India…
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080058895&ch=7/27/2008%208:31:00%20AM
The mad nuts who compare Akshardham and Parliament attack with the Varanasi, Delhi, Rampur, Jaipur, Malegaon, Hyderabad, Nagpur, Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Mumbai ….. blasts seems that people are idiots and indeed it is still the White KKKan uncultured, debauched beasts who are on a “civilizing mission”
The pigs who perpetrated the atrocities in Akshardham, are dead with SONIA MAINO AND MAINOMOHAN KHALISTANI going there for pilgrimage to lay chadors on their mazars every year.
The perpetrators of Parliament attack (with support from anti-national MPs) are dead or GUESTS OF 10 JANPATH, SAVED BY THE MAINO MAFIA WITH A FILTHY CHRISTIAN TRAITOR “COLIN FERNENDES” fighting his case
These Press and Human Rights foreign paid traitors who BAT for terrorists should also be brought under the ambit of strict ANTI TERROR ACT, even if a terrorist gets a life term, these Press and Human Right “SECULAR” dogs should have only one punishment “DEATH FOR TRAITORS”
>>Shakeel Ahmed, Minister of State for Home affairs<<
GREAT GOING, ANOTHER MUFTI
Yossarin, This post was amongst the recent ones that inpsired “Tackling Terrorism: One Step at a Time”…
You and your readers will find it interesting:
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/08/01/tackling-terrorism/
[...] reproduction of Offstumped post on 25th July 2008 in the aftermath of the Bangalore, Ahmedabad blasts. The cancer it seems is now terminal with no [...]
[...] Also, we will be starting a ‘Declare War on Terror’ forum under the aegis of our non-profit foundation CARE TODAY, which will carry on the movement even after the Mumbai terror attacks have vanished from the headlines. This forum will push for change in policy and law. It will study and present detailed proposals for upgradation of our anti-terror institutions. It will serve as a watchdog body to demand efficiency, governance and alertness from our civil administration. It will ensure that the heroes in this war are honoured. It will, through debate and discussion, try and build a national consensus on this issue. Above all, it will not allow the issue of terrorism to fade away from the public domain and the national agenda. [...]
Bjp has no right to speak on national security. When nda was in power parliament attacked by terrorist ..we watched the kandahar drama..etc. They are a menace to national integrity and secularism. Advani took hudred tounghs from his mouth to talk about jinnah with sweety sugary words when he visited pakistan. In here he and his sang parivar are very opertunistic when they need majority hindu votes. Shame on u Lka .,