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Gujarat Polls 2007 – Why beat when you can bait ?

It is now clear that the battleground in Gujarat is no longer just about what happens on the 11th and 16th of December in the polling booths. There are now essentially two battles. The first battle involves the people and will in all likelihood be determined by how much the BJP rebels and the disenchanted special interest groups undercut the traditional Modi vote bank.

The second battle on the other hand is about rendering the people of Gujarat irrelevant.

So you have this troika of the usual suspects?Congress, the mainstream media, radical left wing pressure groups coming together even before the people of Gujarat face the battle at the hustings.

The Congress as Offstumped had pointed is no longer focused on Gujarat but on its Muslim vote bank in the rest of the country. The radical left wing pressure groups are known Modi baiters with a stated agenda to haul him to court.

Offstumped based on extensive analysis over two posts has laid bare the surreptitious campaign by the mainstream media to target Modi with a relentless barrage over the last 45 days invoking communal issues.

If one believes that this troika is attempting to influence public opinion in Gujarat so the people make an informed choice come 11th or 16th one must be seriously deluded.

This is no longer about beating Modi at the hustings by influencing public opinion in Gujarat. This is about baiting Modi even before he can get to the hustings. Hence you have the Election Commission joining this troika unwittingly as a partisan player in this game of bait.

Look at the grounds on which the Election Commission has issued the notice of violation of the model code of conduct

the speech amounts to an open exhortation to violence and misuse of religion for political ends

the references to Late Shri Sohrabuddin and linking his name to terrorism, made in the speech, amounts to indulging in activity which may aggravate existing differences, creating mutual hatred and causing tension between different communities

It is funny that the one fundamental issue or concern that one could have with Mr. Modi’s speech – condoning an extra-judicial killing, finds no mention in the Election Commission’s Notice.

Consider the pervesity here.

The EC is not concerned if Mr. Modi condoned or did not condone the fake encounter, instead the EC wants to take offence to the speech only?because Mr. Sohrabuddin is Muslim and Mr. Modi is Hindu.

This coming from an autonomous?Constitutional Authority that has looked the other way when Congress President Sonia Gandhi calls Mr. Modi a “Merchant of Death” in the context of Muslim fears and Congress General Secretary Digvijay talks of “Hindu Terrorism” without any factual basis.

Offstumped Bottomline: Mr. Modi’s fate must be decided by the people of Gujarat and the Courts and not by unelected bureaucrats sitting in Nirvachan Sadan. The Election Commission’s notice to Mr. Modi gives Institutional Sanction to the perversity of taking offense?to a?criminal’s extra-judicial death based on his religious background. By ignoring remarks from the Congress which were blatantly communal and replete with hatred, the Commission has exposed its partisan dark side. The EC must withdraw its notice or face the prospect of a future impeachment.

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  2. Archee says:

    GANASHAKTI’s motto: “We are not impartial, we are partial towards the ‘common’ man”
    EC’s motto: “On her majesty’s service”

  3. jujung says:

    EC has gone nuts. Well, Modi might just have gotten away with that. I am sure this is not going to be the end of it. Someone’d be petitioning SC soon, if they hvn’t done it already. OTOH, seems Modi is now backtracking. Jekyll and Hyde? What else did we expect anyways?

    The way this blog has become hostage to all sorts of conspiracy theory peddlers, I might as well add one: may be someone in EC is working overtime to make sure Modi wins :)

  4. NoNonsense says:

    >>I might as well add one: may be someone in EC is working overtime to make sure Modi wins

    I agree with you there Comrade Beijing, but I think while the EC’s moves are deliberate, their intended outcome is just the opposite of what you’re alluding to. Do not forget that the EC has on board a longtime associate of the Sonia clan. The Congress knows that propaganda with the help of the NDTVs alone is not going to win it elections.

  5. Matt says:

    Finally – something I can agree with you on, some 90 % of it at least.

    This is rhetoric – but because thats the norm now from both sides, I suppose that goes! >>> The second battle on the other hand is about rendering the people of Gujarat irrelevant.

    But the rest, yes. But this won’t get far, it is just another way to put pressure on Modi, BJP et al. The EC is unlikely to punish him for any kind of ‘causing offence’ in this case.

    Have you considered the possibility that Congress would want Modi to rule Gujarat irrespective of what Gujarat Congress leaders want?

    Its easy. The longer Modi is there, the longer he is provoked, the more BJP defends him, the section of the populace suspicious of the BJP is never going to switch loyalties over to them. In fact, the more the rest of us – people like me – here the tough Modi language and BJP’s defense, we are sure to stay exactly where we are.

    The only problem with this theory is, I don’t think the COngress is smart enough to think of something like this :D

  6. Archee says:


    In fact, the more the rest of us – people like me – here the tough Modi language and BJP’s defense, we are sure to stay exactly where we are.

    So it is true, Indian journos do have single digit IQs.

  7. Archee says:

    seems Modi is now backtracking.

    He sure is : http://www.ibnlive.com/news/if-i-am-abused-this-war-of-words-will-continue/53778-3.html


    I can’t say anything about what my opponents say. But if I am attacked repeatedly and if my pseudo-secularists friends continue to abuse me and allege wrong things about me then this war of words will continue. There are many who gain publicity by abusing me, so then it’s obvious that I will be part of discussions and debates.

    Hey jujung, why is ladlaa Rahul Baba not out there in Gujarat, while his 50 year old mother slogs it out. Don’t you guys feel ashamed that you will be lead by such a person?

  8. reason says:

    >> In fact, the more the rest of us – people like me – here the tough Modi language and BJP’s defense, we are sure to stay exactly where we are.

    Can we consider the other side of this coin? The more the pseudo secular crowd practises its brand of secularism – ‘abusing Hinduism and appeasing christians and muslims’ – the more a section of people would be pushed to the BJP?

    What reason did the kaangress govt have to deny Bhagvan Ram’s divinity in the supreme court? what reason did the secular governments have for defending the rights of a old fart painter to hurt hindu sentiments, but banning da-vinci code? What reason did the Kaangress and communist dhimmies have for playing football with Taslima? What reason did Karunanidhi and Buddhadeb have to again deny Bhagvan Ram’s divinity?

    A crowd turns out to hear Modi speak in distant Trivandrum. Who would turn out to hear a kerala politician speak anywhere else outside kerala?

    You keep your secularism; we will keep our communalism.

  9. Prashant Shah says:

    Modi must be defeated as there is no code of ethics in gujarat now a days. Only 5 crorepatis are happy not all.

    We must bring people who believe in peace and prosperous life for gujarat.

    Congress is best for that as you have seen too much prosperity during last 2-3 years. People like Dr. Manmohansingh, P. Chidambaram, Pranab Mukharjee, Rahul ganhi, Sachin Pilot, Jytiraditya etc are the power of brain which will help gujarat if we bring congress

    Hence we must through out the BJP as they are only for their own interest of communalism.

  10. Janpar Mallai says:

    Yet another “balanced” analysis appears today on Rediff’s “Pulse of Gujarat” special, where every slide gives us a lovely tale of some BJP voter who will vote Congress this time, “theories” about how the whole Patel vote will go to the Congress and other such delights. Co-incidentally, none of the slides paint anything but complete and utter doom for Modi…you have to love the liberal, secular media!

  11. concerned voter says:

    Finally, Rahul Gandhi is arriving on the scene.
    Tomorrow, Sunday, December 9, he is on Road Show from morning till evening visiting 5 Surat constituencies, waving his hands, cheering his supporters, wearing garlands and throwing them to the crowds. Gujarat will benefit by his mere Darshan.
    The latest diatribe against Modi has come from Rajeev Shukla, Congi leader. According to him, Modi is Osama bin Laden of India, wanting to secede Gujarat from Indian Union.
    Any takers for that.

  12. Archee says:


    The latest diatribe against Modi has come from Rajeev Shukla, Congi leader. According to him, Modi is Osama bin Laden of India, wanting to secede Gujarat from Indian Union.

    The election commission will stick a medal on him for his role national integration.

  13. Archee says:

    Actually Shukla might get the stick from his dhimmi party for maligning the great Islamic herrow.

  14. prashant says:

    SomeONE INCLUDING OUR Secular Media has commented on Kandahar Episode regularly…
    I ask them is it not fact that Those Media themself Were telecasting Live the Protest(by Brinda Karat) in front of PM house asking to get those Passenger Freed…
    In war if you show your Weakness then Do you expect the Enemy Not to utilise it.
    Should not be MEDIA instead of Blaming the then Govt Ask themself that it was Due to Irresponsible behaviour WE had to free tose Terroristr.
    Should not the Media be Punished for that ?????
    But instead of that Media is raising accusing finger…..
    But well if I analyse those Event then gets the Answer as Media had always been DOORMAT of Gandhi Family.

  15. reason says:

    >> People like Dr. Manmohansingh, P. Chidambaram, Pranab Mukharjee, Rahul ganhi, Sachin Pilot, Jytiraditya etc are the power of brain

    power of brain! awesome. That pet poodle pranab mukherjee can not bring himself to reacting to malaysian accusations that HINDRAF are terrorists. how much would it really take for these dimwits to recognize kaangress dhimmitude?

    too much prosperity. and first claim on that mythical prosperity to minorities. And that other ‘power of brain’ admits in parliament of terror money in indian stock markets – but still he can only ’suspect’.

  16. Matt says:

    >> Can we consider the other side of this coin? The more the pseudo secular crowd practises its brand of secularism – ‘abusing Hinduism and appeasing christians and muslims’ – the more a section of people would be pushed to the BJP?

    Sure. That too is happening.

    But you think the Congress is stupid enough to say in court that Ram does not exist? They might be stupid, but not that stupid :D The Left, on the other hand, can do it – and in that case, I believe it is a case of some lowbrain deciding to be more loyal than the King.

    >> MF Husain, Da Vinci etc

    The liberals – like me – believe that govt actually did not defend Husain enough. And that they are adopting a hands-off policy. Classic liberals are also for not banning Da Vinci Code, letting the artist in Vadodara draw Christ the way he wanted, and for Danish cartoons. But unfortunately, regarding artists, we believe that all parties want to control freedom of expression, irrespective of religion. We do not think the Congress is better than or worse than anyone in that.

    >> A crowd turns out to hear Modi speak in distant Trivandrum. Who would turn out to hear a kerala politician speak anywhere else outside kerala?

    Kerala likes a curiosity – I would go too to listen to Modi! What if he says something really obnoxious and I lose that historic chance? :D Go to Kerala and talk to people, you wil find 90 % of Hindus against Modi (sure I havent done a survey, so don’t hold me to that number please – but you get the idea)

  17. reason says:

    >> But unfortunately, regarding artists, we believe that all parties want to control freedom of expression, irrespective of religion. We do not think the Congress is better than or worse than anyone in that.

    yeah right. kaangress govt in india under that great ‘power of brain’ was among the first to ban Rushdie’s satanic verses. Kaangress and commies (like you yourself) have a very selective attitude to freedom of expression. and may I add, a very selective memory as well.

    >> Go to Kerala and talk to people, you wil find 90 % of Hindus against Modi (sure I havent done a survey, so don’t hold me to that number please – but you get the idea)

    well I dont. should i accept a mythical number that you quote without basis to get any ‘idea’?

  18. Ravindra says:

    Archee: “…why is ladlaa Rahul Baba not out there in Gujarat, while his 50 year old mother slogs it out”

    tsk tsk..it is not 50, it is 60!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Gandhi

    Regarding Rajiv Shukla’s Osama comparison, it is really shocking! Had Modi been the one to use the Osama word, he would have been immediately criticised not only by the Opposition but also by the MSM for targetting Muslims (like they did it when he talked about Miyan Musharraf). But when Congress spokespersons talk about it, not a murmur of protest!

    The EC’s conduct would have to be watched carefully, particularly on account of Navin Chawla’s presence in the COmmission. After all, Madame Sonia would have planted such luminaries in critical seats of power (the EC, President, Vice President, Governors) so that they come in handy in such rainy days!

  19. Matt says:

    reason, at least know your enemy.

    Liberals, media, congress, the left ideologues and Commies have their own agendas. They are one monolithic formation with a single motive. If you consistently follow media and political personalities, you can easily figure out who belongs to which camp.

    Is everyone on the right a swadesi loving, BJP-Bajrang Dal, VHP supporter? Of course not. There are many colors of right wingers, and many colors of left-wingers.

    Accusing me of being a commie is just funny.

    Of course the Congress banned Satanic verses. Liberals did not support it, but Commies did if I remember right. I have no interest in defending Congress’ attitudes or Commies’ for that matter!

    Of course you don’t need to accept any number I give you – that was my opinion, and I am not Taliban or Togadia to make you believe it :D

  20. concerned voter says:

    Excerpts from the following link:
    http://newstodaynet.com/col.php?section=20&catid=33

    The term ‘Merchant of death’ is the most appropriate term suiting her since the day she captured power as an extra constitutional authority without any accountability or sense of moral responsibility. The nation’s security has been in shambles for the last three years and Islamic terrorism, Naxalism & Maoism have increased at an alarming rate due to her appeasement policies and vote bank politics resulting in deaths of thousands of innocent people and destruction of billions of rupees worth of private and public properties.

    I spoke to Dr Subramanian Swamy who as a young parliamentarian fought against the terrorism of Indira Gandhi during emergency in 1975-77 and who is now leading a One-Man Brigade fighting the terrorism being let loose against the Hindus of India by the UPA Government in New Delhi under the stranglehold of a champion of Islamic Terrorism, though she calls herself an ‘Archangel of Christian Peace’, like Sonia Gandhi. Dr Swamy has this to say on Sonia’s observations on Narendra Modi and Gujarat:

    ‘I am rather amused by the observations of Sonia Gandhi to the effect that Narendra Modi is functioning as a ‘Merchant of Death’ and that he has converted Gujarat into a ‘Godse Land’. And yet I am not surprised because I know that she is an international terrorist with close links with merchants of death not only in India but in several other parts of the world.

    Otherwise, she would not have teamed up with those terrorists who are responsible for the murder of her husband Rajiv Gandhi—I mean the DMK Party with its multiple layers of financial and political underground connections with the LTTE. Sonia Gandhi can never understand India and much less Hinduism and Hindu way of live. She can never understand Indian feelings, emotions and sentiments.

    No other Indian widow would have teamed up with the killers of her husband or those who praised those killers in poetic terms, as Sonia has done, to keep herself and her family in a position of unchallenged power in New Delhi. Moreover, Sonia is ignorant about the fact that Nathuram Godse was a Maharashtrian and not a Gujarathi. Godse killed another Hindu and not a Muslim or a Christian. In short, I can only say that Sonia herself is a ‘Merchant of Death’ for all the Hindus of India regardless of the State of their origin.’

    As usual, the Congress has lived up to its known pseudo-secular standard of supporting Islamic terror. The people of Gujarat will, no doubt, give a fitting and resounding reply to the Congress Party in the coming fortnight.

  21. Archee says:


    No other Indian widow would have teamed up with the killers of her husband or those who praised those killers in poetic terms, as Sonia has done, to keep herself and her family in a position of unchallenged power in New Delhi.

    She is doing what comes naturally to the gora log.

  22. Aryan says:

    @matt

    ‘Go to Kerala and talk to people, you wil find 90 % of Hindus against Modi (sure I havent done a survey, so don’t hold me to that number please – but you get the idea)’

    I’d like to see the crystal ball that you have. You can read minds ! whether it be poor mallus or rich gujjus ! you have them all figured !

    and no we dont get the ‘idea’ how you can ‘divine’ such awesome ‘generalizations’, can you please educate us oh ‘wise’ one ?

  23. socal says:

    “It is funny that the one fundamental issue or concern that one could have with Mr. Modi’s speech – condoning an extra-judicial killing, finds no mention in the Election Commission’s Notice.”

    I don’t understand why you insist or imply that Modi was condoning extra-judicial killing. By any measure he wasn’t. If you see the clip all he does is ask what a gun-peddling, pakistan-connected criminal deserves? The crowd replies with the same answer that a similar question about a rapist, serial killer, paedophile, drug smuggler et al. would invoke. Such an individual deserves to be killed but not necessarily through “encounter” which seems to be the reading of most.

    Also “fake encounter” is a misnomer. An encounter by definition is arranged. I mean the police don’t accidentally get into it since their presence at the incidence is governed by prior planning e.g. the police can be there for busting a gang, arraignment of a fugitive and were tipped off about the location etc.

    Good post though. A whiff of fresh air in contrast to the nauseatingly monotonous secular media.

  24. Matt says:

    Hey, we all have a right to our own ‘informed guesses’. Like your informed guess is that Modi will win. Same as my informed guess. But we both are running the elections :D so what proof do we have!

    In the case of Kerala, Gujarat, India, whatever.. I make my guesses from what I know. I thought that was entirely human :D

    (and whats with the street bully tone overall? Its the Intarwebs, so whats the use? If you were actually being nice, sorry for misreading you)

  25. socal says:

    “Kerala likes a curiosity”

    What was their(Keralites) response to Lalu’s meeting, if any?

    “What if he says something really obnoxious and I lose that historic chance?”

    I can understand about you, but the Keralites, 90% of whom don’t understand Hindi whereas Modi doesn’t speak Mallu, not sure they would indulge their curiosity even at the expense of understanding what he’s speaking about. Who would appear to be a bigger idiot when such curious fella brags that he ‘was there though he understood no word of it’ untill it appeared in the newspaper the next day? (And please don’t hold me to the number either. ;-)

  26. Aryan says:

    @matt

    in terms of modi winning the elections, its what the polls are stating, and the mass media has finally shaken off the delusion that it can even dream of beating modi in the elections. So it’s not a guess.

    ‘and whats with the street bully tone overall?’

    If the repudiation of ‘facts’ seems like bullying, maybe one should verify the ‘facts’ and generalizations, or provide proof, to avoid hurting one’s fragile psyche.

  27. Matt says:

    was generally talking about the kaangressiee, commiee being spat about casually…

    In Kerala know what happened in the last elections? BJP had their best ever chance and the state BJP leaders and RSS supporters voted commie to spite the Congress! Look where it led them to! Just desserts, remember that kerala’s only chance so far to elect a BJP MLA was sold to the communists there.

    People were expecting BJP’s first ever MLA, and the results were so bad because the state leadership of BJP COULD sell votes to the commies of all people. So why bring Kerala into this? It was the biggest embarrassment which the party brought upon itself.

    Yes, lalu too got a major crowd – and villagers were curious about him and his family, he was a curiosity too.

  28. Aryan says:

    It’s funny Modi is being persecuted for asking a crowd of people, what should be done with a terrorist. It’s being termed as hate speech.( hatred for terrorists ? oh my ! ) I’m just glad the media did not go ahead and call it ‘verbal genocide’, its not too far fetched considering these bozos.

    On the other hand consider the offensive statements on Lord Ram by the commies, karunanidhi and buddhadev. I wonder if those burnt dead bodies found in nandigram had something to do with buddha’s sudden expression of hatred for hindu gods. Hey, its ok to kill and burn muslims, if you follow it up by trashing hindu gods, right ?

    One cannot expect better treatment from Godless commies, but, is it too much to ask tamils and bengalis to respect their hindu heritage.

    The real threat from these utterances, is to the christian and muslim minorities, because it will only serve to radicalize the hindus.

    India needs a senator mccarthy, to purge these commies, to cleanse this holy land of these godless commies.

  29. Archee says:


    The real threat from these utterances, is to the christian and muslim minorities, because it will only serve to radicalize the hindus.

    It is inevitable now, Hindus are going to get radicalized EVERY where, Hindus have not survived Islamic hell only by acting nice.

  30. Aryan says:

    It’s ironic that the commies are going to hurt their only constituents, the minorities by making these anti-hindu statements. But then do the commies really have any Indian constituency ? Isnt it all chinese ?

  31. aaaa says:

    Navin Chawla the EC head is a Christian convert.

  32. Nagesh says:

    http://www.supportgujarat.org (a very professionally created website by NRI groups with video clips of development etc.)

  33. reason says:

    Now, a gujarati newspaper is in trouble for publishing a quarter page article suggesting vegetarianism and avoiding animal slaughter on the eve of Id.
    (http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070035291&ch=12/8/2007%2011:01:00%20AM)
    Animal slaughter in residential neighbourhoods is a particular concern because of the hygiene issues. Ofcourse, our ‘liberals’ understand that when it comes to the religion of love or religion of peace, it is tails firmly tucked between hind legs.

    Wonder how our resident liberal would react to this. Cant a newspaper in india publish an article on the practice of slaughtering animals in their neighborhoods or vegetarianism to the religion of peace? well, ofcourse not. Get those fatwas ready.

  34. Matt says:

    Here is something right-wingers should read

    http://www.indianexpress.com/sunday/story/248227.html

    Now, don’t go into Taliban mode too quickly because it is Indian Express, and this is a piece by Tavleen Singh, who has been against Sonia and Congress for a decade.

    Here is an excerpt:

    // When I heard Narendra Modi boasting that his policemen killed a man in cold blood because they suspected he was a terrorist, I thought I had heard wrong. It was not possible, I said to myself, that a man who swore to uphold the Constitution of India when he was elected to public office would admit proudly to treating it with contempt. It was not until I watched him repeat his comments in bulletin after bulletin and heard translations by those whose Gujarati is better than mine that I accepted that Modi is the first Indian official to admit publicly that the rule of law, as enshrined in our Constitution, is meaningless. Others have broken the law, others have ignored the Constitution, but nobody has boasted of this as an achievement as a reason to be voted back to office.//

    Again, Tavleen would prefer BJP to Congress anyday, she is anti-lalu, and anti-Communist.

    So let us not believe that you have to be a Modi supporter to be a BJP supporter. There can be all shades of opinion.

  35. amused says:

    I am amused that Sonia, and later PM, MMS, said in Gujarat that claims made by Gujarat Government, read Modi, are exaggerated without providing support to their counterclaims.

    Contrast these views with this last but not the least, the latest one to appear in Economic Times today:

    Gujarat Top Investment Destination in India – Deutsche Bank.

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Gujarat_top_investment_destination_in_India_Deutsche_Bank/articleshow/2608222.cms

    Rahul’s road show, the first in Gujarat, has begun in Surat.
    SAMAY TV is on LIVE with this show just now.

  36. reason says:

    there are atleast two inaccuracies in tavleen’s comments quoted above.

    >> I accepted that Modi is the first Indian official to admit publicly that the rule of law, as enshrined in our Constitution, is meaningless

    others have done it plenty before. DMK men burnt copies of constitution itself once – later they claimed they only burnt papers. Cabinet ministers in the union UPA cabinet are on record of having said ‘why should we care about supreme court stay on reservations’ in a cabinet meeting – it was reported in that secular mouthpiece Hindu. Is that ‘respecting rule of law’? The communist chief minister said, only days before, with a smirk on his face, that his party men ‘paid back political opposition in their own coin’ – referring to the CPM violence in nandigram. Tavleen singh was probably sleeping during those countless instances. Need we even go back to the shah bano case to know how much the secular dhimmies value constitution?

    >> When I heard Narendra Modi boasting that his policemen killed a man in cold blood because they suspected he was a terrorist,

    we have the transcript of Modi’s and BJP’s response to that election commission notice. That points out that reports that Modi ‘boasted’, or ‘confessed’ are creations of times of India. Lord Desai got that right – in his response to NDTV.

  37. Matt says:

    reason,

    In my book, two wrong do not make a right. Is that what you are saying?

    That is like a congresswala saying that look at Gujarat 2002, so 1984 is justified.

    Either we are for the constitution or against it.

    (the reservation issue is different – governments have gone against courts when NDA was ruling too, and even before that. that is something they will settle among themselves. Or are you with the court when it is against reservation, not against it when ayodhya demolition happened against specific instructions and promises to the court? Let us not mix that up with this article)

    Modi DIRECTLY went against the constitution – that is what Tavleen Singh – who has been, and still is supporting the BJP – is saying. And that that cannot be tolerated.

    She says she listened to several translations. And no, she does not go by what ToI says.

    I also notice one thing. I am happy to say that Congress screwed up, commies screwed up. I don’t see any such admission of any wrong ever from anyone else here. Who is Modi, the Pope? :D Or some Mullah, who can do no wrong?

    Buddahdeb, after his coin talk, said that he regretted it. That does not make it OK, but he said that. Congress has apologised several times for 1984. That does not make it OK, but they did that. I don’t see a Modi doing that in the future :D

    And let me tell you one thing — I believe Advani, Vajpayee and Rajnath absolutely agree with what Sonia said. Despite whatever they say in public. In the end, they are decent men. Not so, I suspect, a Modi who publicly takes credit for going all Rambo on the Constitution.

  38. reason says:

    i pointed out the inaccuracy in tavleen (and most of the rest of the media) pretending that Modi was the first and only person ever to violate the constitution. truth is not many politicians in india give a s*it to the constitution or rule of law.

    by the way, if ‘we are either for the constitution or against it’, how can you also say ‘governments have gone against courts’?

    >> I believe Advani, Vajpayee and Rajnath absolutely agree with what Sonia said. Despite whatever they say in public. In the end, they are decent men. Not so, I suspect, a Modi who publicly takes credit for going all Rambo on the Constitution.

    funny you think advani is a ‘decent man’. Did he say lets rebuild that mosque at the babri site? or would Advani still be decent in the liberal’s books even after the mosque demolition? If so, I would consider that a major improvement in the ‘liberal’ outlook :-)

  39. prashant says:

    //It was not until I watched him repeat his comments in “bulletin after bulletin” and heard translations by those whose Gujarati is better//

    Matt
    Exactly this is the case against so called Bullettin of Scular channel NDTV,IBN etc.
    They all “Modify” the speech of Modi and now Proved after Modi clarification to EC.
    iF mODI SAID that then let EC takes action.

    Now about other side the LAW MINISTER of UPA has got to say about “Court”.
    Communist in WB leader of Left Front Biman Bose has openly said “Derogratory words” for Judges of High Court…..
    Anyway I think u are sort of those Liberal who like to see in wat you want to c.

  40. prashant says:

    The other day I was listening to Javed Akhtar who has filed case in Court against Modi in Sohrabuddin.
    He said We raised our Voice in Taslima case???????

    I ask ALL if anyone seen JAVED AKHTAR protesting against Taslima treatment given by Communist.

    These Secular guys are similar to “Elephant Teeth” Khane ke Aur.Dikhane ke Aur.

  41. prashant says:

    Dear Matt,its For YOU.
    8th December 2007

    From:
    Narendra D. Modi
    Gandhinagar.

    To
    The Election Commission of India
    Nirvachan Sadan,
    Ashoka Road,
    New Delhi.110001.

    Subject: Your Notice dated 6th December 2007 to Shri Narendra Modi, Chief Minister, Gujarat State.

    Sir,

    I am in receipt of your notice dated 6th December 2007 wherein on the basis of the media reports and a complaint dated 5th December 2007 filed by Teesta Setalvad, I am alleged to have made an open exhortation to violence and misused of religion for political ends. The Election Commission has further stated that by linking the name of Sohrabuddin to terrorism in my speech amounts to indulging in activity which may aggravate existing differences, creating mutual hatred and causing tension between different communities. I deny this charge in its entirety.

    1. The Commission has acted on the basis of a complaint which alleges that my stand is contrary to what the State of Gujarat has stated in its affidavit before the Supreme Court. The basis of the complaint appears to be a report dated 5th December 2007 of the Times of India by one Shri Prashant Dayal. The relevant extract in the Times of India reads as under:

    Modi…….you tell what should be done to Sohrabuddin?
    People at the rally: Kill him, kill him.
    Modi: Well, that is what I did. And I did what was necessary.”

    The last sentence of the report of the Times of India has generated controversy in the whole nation. Television Channels and News Papers have made comments to the effect that I have stated that ‘Sohrabuddin got what he deserved’, or that ‘it is a confessional statement by me’ or that ‘Modi has justified a murder’. All other news papers cuttings which the Commission has taken into account are dated 6th December 2007, which do not report my speech delivered on 4th December, 2007 but are comments inspired by false imputation in the Times of India. This last sentence is not reflected in the CD as having been used by me.

    2. ‘The Statesman’ dated 6th December 2007 quoted me as having said –
    “he (Sohrabuddin) has got what he deserved”: The Hindustan Times of 6th December quoted me as saying “Well then, that’s it.” I had on 6th December 2007, immediately after receiving Election Commission’s notice requested that I may be supplied copy of the CD of the speech and also various inputs which have influenced the issuance of the notice. I have since received the copy of CD on the evening of 7th December 2007 at 5.45 p.m. I find none of the above statements are contained in my speech as recorded in the CD. The .E.C. notice is issued on the basis of unverified and false media reports.

    3 As I am also involved in a campaign I am sending this as a preliminary reply, which I am sure would satisfy the Election Commission with regard to the contents of my speech. Before I answer specifics raised in the notice and the complaint, I wish to state that India is governed by Rule of law and Constitution. I am entitled to my right of free speech. Free and fair election involves a debate on the political issues in the market place of politics. When statements are made by political opponents, others are entitled to reply to them. The tone and content of the statement must necessarily adhere to the Model Code of Conduct. I wish to categorically state that I regard the Election Commission as a constitutional authority under an obligation to ensure free and fair election which will also defend my right of free speech against those who have started hate campaign against me.

    4. On 1st December 2007, AICC President Mrs. Sonia Gandhi visited Gujarat and referred to me by suggesting those who are ruling Gujarat are “liars, dishonest and merchants of fear and death (Maut-ke-Soudagar).” On 3rd December 2007, AICC General Secretary Mr. Digvijay Singh visited Gujarat and referred to it as a State which has unleashed “Hindu terrorism.” The newspapers reported these statements extensively. Separate complaints with regard to the violation of the Code of Conduct were sent to the Election Commission by the Gujarat Unit of BJP. No action has been taken against those responsible for these statements by the Election Commission. I am sure the Election Commission would at least now proceed to take action on those reports.

    5. One of the critical issues in our country is the problem of terrorism. India has lost the lives almost 90,000 of innocent citizens and security personnel in the last 17 years to terror. In the last four years, 5,619 innocents have been killed by the terrorist. The Government of Gujarat has a strong policy against terrorism. I believe that UPA and Congress party is indulging in Vote Bank politics and have sent soft signals on terrorism. My party and I have repeatedly made these charges against the Congress Party. In Gujarat only one life has been lost in the last four years through terror. This is a result of our strong policy against terrorism. The Nation and the people of Gujarat are entitled to witness a fair debate on terrorism. If any of the view point is censored or not permitted it will be interference in the right of free speech. Our Constitution and the election commission’s obligation to conduct free and fair election will not extend to preventing me from expressing my strong views against terrorism..

    6 My speech, therefore, has to be read entirely in this context. It was a political response to Mrs. Sonia Gandhi referring to me as those who rule the Gujarat as a ‘Mout-ke-saudagar’. Surely it cannot be policy of the Election commission first to ignore the violation of the Code of Conduct in her statement and then censor my political response to that statement. I have gone through my speech on the CD supplied. It is merely a response to Mrs. Sonia Gandhi calling me “Mout-ka-Saudagar”.

    7. This part of my speech was entirely against terrorism. I criticized the Congress President for calling me a ‘Maut Ka Saudagar´. I responded that the “Maut Ka Saudagar” are all those who attacked parliament It is the Congress party which is delaying the execution of the guilty accused. I have made a reference to the Sohrabuddin’s case and mentioned the allegations against him. I have accused the Congress of suggesting that I have engineered a fake encounter. I said that I am open for any action on this count. At no point of time I have either justified the specific encounter of Sohrabuddin’s case, nor have I used the specific inculpatery sentences used in the Times of India Report. It is clear that my comment is a part of my speech where on several occasions I have put questions to the audience which the audience has answered. It is my political response to Smt. Gandhi’s allegation that I am Maut-ka-Sodagar. I have replied back alleging that the Congress party is helping those who have spread terrorism in the country. It is clear that Times of India’s article which began this controversy, invented my comment to the effect “Modi: Well that is what I did. And I did what was necessary”. The CD clearly indicates that this sentence was an invention of author and not the orator. The comments in the media that ‘Modi justified murder’ or that ‘he made confessional statement’ as being privy to murder or that Modi declared in the meeting that ‘Sohrabuddin got what he deserved’ do not find a mention in the CD. These are journalistic inventions intended to engineer a ‘Hate Modi’ campaign and not evidenced in the CD supplied by the Election Commission. My criticism in the media was concocted and engineered by this ‘Hate Modi’ Campaign. No where in my speech have I explicitly referred to the religion of any person. I have spoken against terrorism. It is not my speech but the complaint which assumes terrorism is linked to a religion.

    8 Am I to be prevented from giving my point that terrorism will not be allowed on the soil of Gujarat or that Congress is soft on the terrors and thereby helping “Maut-ka-Sodagar” If Election Commission imposes any such regulation, it would offend our constitutional values and my right of free speech. At no stage I have controverted the affidavit filed by the Gujarat Government in the Supreme Court of India. I have already clarified my position that I do not support fake encounters. Encounters can occur but there should be no fake encounters. I have nowhere tried to prejudice any pending litigation. I am fully committed to the enforcement of the Model Code of Conduct by the Election Commission and shall comply with it. I believe that the Election Commission should not be misled by motivated media reports which are based on falsehood.

    I, therefore, request the Election Commission to withdraw this notice.

    (NARENDRA MODI)

    Date. 8.12.2007

    Courtesy_
    THE HINDU

  42. prashant says:

    If Secular Media& JAVED AKHTAR has got any “Iman” then they MUST apologises for Reporting False Information and also creating TENSION between different Community or by Clubbibg cRiminal Soharubiddin WITH MUSLIM….

    Or of Modi has given wrong information to EC then he must be Arrested As I cant ask for Media or Javed Akhtar be arrested as they are Inteelectual

  43. Matt says:

    I have read Modi’s reply to EC. Let’s see where it finally ends.

    (Courts NOT equal to constitution. There is a balance of power between Legislature and Judiciary – so opposing the court or bringing a law which negates a court order has not been held by courts themselves as against the constitution.)

    Javed Akhtar protested against Communists – I don’t know. He protested when Muslim fundamentalists attacked her in Hyderabad though. Does that count?

  44. prashant says:

    If Court says “Bandh with State sponser is illegal” is that Unconstitutional???
    If Court ask CBI for Nandigram…IS THAT unconstitutional????
    The problem WITH SO CALLED Intellectual is like “Elephant Teeth”—I repeat.

    On Javed Akhtar—-I have not seen him filing any case against those WHO attacked Taslima…
    I have NOT seen him When Nandigram happens
    I have not seen him whem an Adivasi Women was Stripped Naked in Assam
    I have NOT seen him filing case against Maharashtra Government where HE reside against Encounter against Khwaja younus..
    Finally if the Letter of Modi is Fact,then Dont he need to Apologise for his comment on Sohrabuddin.
    If he got any Iman left off course.

  45. prashant says:

    I think first Matt must apologise in this blog for all his comments on Modi on Sohrabuddin.

  46. prashant says:

    Our Secular Media & Party & Media& Communist talks of MUSLIMS of iRAQ,AFGHANISTAN,PALESTINE,etc.

    But they dont talk of HINDUS in Malaysia…..

  47. Nagesh says:

    Sonia’s Promise to Muslims
    —————————

    Sonia Gandhi wrote a letter as part of a 2007 election campaign in UP, specifically pleading to thousands of Muslim leaders in the state to “help me generously to fight against caste and communalism [read majority Hindus] so that I can build a society of your dreams…”

    Analysis:

    Given that Muslim clerics in UP identify with Deoband-type fundamentalist Islam (UP has become a terror base for Lashkar-e-Taiba), is this promise indicative of a leader who is prepared to protect India?

    Congress party led UPA’s unfair reservation scheme for Muslims is further confirmation that Sonia appears to pander to communalism.

    ManMohan Singh too promised “They [Indian Muslims] must have the first claim on resources”. With Pakistan and Bangladesh already standing almost as an exclusive 25% PERMANENT reservation of land, opportunities and wealth for Indian Muslims, why do they need more?

    Many among majority and other non-Muslim Indians have to wonder whether Congress is just a Muslim friendly party.

    They must be wondering why they should vote for Congress!

    Congress leadership needs to prove that they represent all of India, not just a vocal minority.

    Reference:

    Editorial, “Congress Communal Campaign,” Organiser, April 29, 2007, http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=181&page=7

  48. sharat says:

    This is heights of Appeasement …….let me assure all the readers that as European countries paid the price of appeasing Hitler……
    India will…..pay the price of appeasing it’s minorities…….

    Sonia will flee to Italy with Rahul living…..

  49. Archee says:

    It seems Yogendra Yadav did not even need to adjust for the “skew”, since he had no sample, basically our champ went and talked to some folks and concluded that Modi will lose : http://www.indianexpress.com/story/248518.html

  50. concerned voter says:

    Thanks Prashant for reproducing Modi’s reply to EC.

    Today he’s to reply in SC in 2 petitions filed against him.

    Modi’s life is as transparent as can be. His views and actions, and reactions, are within the bounds of our Constitution and adhering to the spirit and administration of law.

    In the bubling cauldron of Gujarat elecoral politics, his mettle is tested to the core. No other politician would survive such abuses, canards and minsconceptions spread deliberately against him.

    Truth will prevail. Time will tell the difference.

  51. prashant says:

    The intresting would be to see wat Sonia ben has to say on the Notice given to her…
    Secular commentor would now be blaming Sonia Advisor for all that Golmal….
    When things go well Credit goes to Sonia ben, and if goes opposite then credit goes to her advisors.. by our Secular Media.

  52. Sharat says:

    Last night there were couple of programs simultaneously telecast on NDTV India and NDTV 24×7…..

    Guess what these programs had to offer…….yeah you got it right….they were about gujarat….
    and yes….you again guessed it right….they were totally negative against Narendra Modi….
    Even the anchors..(Barkha Dutt and other i don’t know) were piling on Narendra Modi for all things bad in Gujarat…
    I wonder….why these are called anchors….these so called anchors are downrightly biased…..
    instead they should be called wolf in the clothing of sheep journos…..

    i think this would not affect the outcome of polls…….i don’t know why EC is silent on these kind of programs which are telecast just before elections…..just to sway the voters and not opinions…

    In order to sway the opinions these programs should come after 1 year of elections…not one night before elections……

    I wonder why these so called journos are blind to other things happening in India …..
    Here are common issues, i am listing …

    1. Traffic sense in India.
    2. Taxes on Petroleum Products.
    3. Mafia raj in East Uttar Pradesh.
    4. Maoist raj in Jharkhand/bihar/Bengal.
    5. Killing of Female wombs (A very serious issue…it is leading to one gender growth…..serious consequences ahead).
    6. Corruption in Indian Buereaucracy…..yeah i know i got the spelling wrong?
    7. Corruption in State Governments over Contracts.
    8. Massive Shortage of Power and electricity …especailly in villages.
    9. Bad Roads all over india.

    If the journos dig over the above issues instead of digging Narendra Modi and wasting India’s time as they have wasted from 2002 ,we would will feel that they are doing their job…otherwise…..the journos are usual dumb political cronies….

    People will decide……..

  53. concerned voter says:

    *Why Modi will win in Gujarat?*

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2607669.cms

    Excerpts:

    ‘The Gujarat state election has probably been handed over to Narendra Modi’s BJP on a platter. The row kicked up by other parties and the media — with Sonia Gandhi calling the BJP “merchants of death” — is working entirely to Modi’s advantage. The violation of human rights, which worries those outside Gujarat, worries Gujarati Hindus very little. They are more worried by Islamic militancy, and support killing in fake encounters to overcome it.’
    -x-x-x
    ‘He has appealed to Gujarati pride, saying critics are trying to defame Gujarat state, not just him personally. He is factually on firm ground in saying that political parties who have resorted to extra-judicial killings galore in other states are hypocrites in trying to portray Gujarat as a den of sin.’

  54. prashant says:

    I am making one Hard Statement,
    These so called Journalist are actually ISI agents.
    Remember bcoz of their Live Telecast WE had to surrender to Terrorist in Kandahar.
    They were in fact arranging Protest of the Relatives of Passengers and Showing Live and also informing those Terrorist Group to WAIT,there demand will be met.

    And later they Question Govt. that Y those Terrorist let off…

  55. Matt says:

    prashant, you are too funny. You should write in newspapers, circulation might go up :D

    on behalf of all ISI agent-journalists, I promise you a high paypacket!

    here’s some questions –

    BJP and Left and both opposing the nuclear deal – you think secretly, BJP is full of China lovers too? You think BJP and CPIM will merge when they defeat Congress?

    Tehelka expose came in Aaj Tak, which has always been supporting the BJP. You think ISI has bought Prabhu Chawla?

    Has ISI bought Tavleen Singh too – maybe that is why she criticised Modi?

    Who in your opinion will be a good, patriotic media guy – Modi, Babu Bajrangi, Thackeray? If you are patriotic, why don’t u subscribe to Samna? :D

    *I am having so much fun!*

  56. Sharat says:

    Doom time is coming in for Journos…….People are going tired of their daily tirade against one and only……..
    yeah..you guessed it right…..

    DD News is the only news channel which doesn’t sows New and Innovative stuff……
    CBNC Awaaz is also one other channel focussing on Development……..
    While the tagline of NDTV,IBN etc is Communalism/Securlarism/Sonia etc….
    the tagline of CNBC Awaaz is Development……

    Once people get hooked on to development ….all other wasteful and needless exercises by Media ….will disappear overnight…..

  57. Aryan says:

    It was fun to watch ‘nuetral’ journalists being haraunged by crowds in vadodra, calling them biased. At one point the crowd started chanting Modi ! modi ! Made the journos really angry. It must have been painful for our ‘journalists’ and pseudo-seculars to hear the hindu hriday samrat name being chanted. I cannot imagine what they’ll do when Modi becomes PM, commit mass suicide haha ! I just cant wait to watch the post modi-win coverage, maybe the journos will just cry themselves to sleep.

    on a related note, rahul gandhi, couldnt finish a sentence in hindi, but after three tries he got it right. Maybe he should have tried Italian, his mother tongue haha but the journos reported as if they had seen the second ‘avatar’ of the mahatma, yeah mahatma gandhi, italian style

  58. Vikas says:

    Matt and friends,
    Much has been said on Modi’s Sohrabuddin remarks. As far as I see,I do not find anyone, including even Modi’s detractors, debating the criminal antecedents of Sohrabuddin. That leaves the issue whether the encounter was genuine or fake.I am aghast at the furore created. Of course it might be legally and upto an extent morally incorrect. But have we not seen illegal acts before to combat larger dangers. Was this not the case in Punjab, or is it not the case with so many state polices preempting criminals, who get away either because of the lethargy or corruption in judiciary. Have not the govts themselves from US to Soviet Union to Israel employed, what technically would be termed illegal, similar ways. Ideally the debate should have been focussed on speedy and efficient judiciary, enactment of potent laws to curb terror and organised crime, and the need to recognise the dangers of terrorism in public discourses. If we do not have potent laws or a delivering criminal justice system, such occurences are bound to recur as the lives of innocent people can not be deferred protection till the system gets geared up.

  59. prashant says:

    Matt…Thank you for your Proposal of “Fat PAY Packet”
    BUT point is from where these Channel will FUND my pay packet….
    May be from Christain Organisation who actually own these Channel and it also seems that for “Fat Pay Packet” these so called Journalist can sell there IMAN and ready to be Doormat.

    On your Question:
    Congress + BJP oppose Communist in Bengal & BJP + cOMMUNIST oppose Congress in kerala SO when all are Merging.

    Just ask CONGRESS why they Opposed “POKHRAN” of NDA government,

    WHY congress is silent on Tehelka Expose AND CAN YOU explain that 3 days that Modi give to rioter.

    Tavleen as said was Surprised by Modi Comments on Sohrabuddin which now is proved that were “DOCTERED” BY your Media.

    Finally it better to have Fun in life then Be Doormat JOURNALIST.
    sO ENJOY with ur Elephant Teeth Honey

  60. reason says:

    >> BJP and Left and both opposing the nuclear deal – you think secretly, BJP is full of China lovers too? You think BJP and CPIM will merge when they defeat Congress?

    you may want to educate yourself on the actual reasons why BJP is opposing the deal, and the reasons why CPIM is opposing the deal. BTW, is it your position that CPIM is full of china lovers? That would be yet another improvement for the ‘liberal’ :-)

  61. Archee says:


    you may want to educate yourself

    Till proven otherwise it is safe to assume this about any particular journalist : 1] he is not the sharpest tool in the box 2] he is dishonest.

    Most journalists do not educate themselves about anything, in most cases it would make any difference even if they tried too, so one can’t blame them. However concocting stuff, like TOI putting words in Modi’s mouth falsely shows their dishonest nature.

  62. Matt says:

    hehe, I personally think that the CPIM top leadership (Karat, Yechuri etc) are much more Anti american than pro China. That is no news to anyone. Even left-supporting journalists have said it in the papers and TV several time. ACTUALLY watch TV and read newspapers sometimes :D

    Prasnaht,

    What makes you think that BJP or CPIM are telling you their real reasons for opposing the deal? :D How do you know whos saying the truth? Got a direct line to Advani eh? :D

    Christians owning media – please give proof. HT, TOI, India Today, IBN, NDTV – owned by Christians? Do a google search first. I think maybe Christians own Pioneer :D and DD is owned by Al Qaeda (just balancing out your statements, pls forgive the nonsense)

    Congress opposing Pokhran: WHo? What? When? :D YOU THINK Congress opposed Pokhran, at most they were jealous that Vajpayee got the chance for test what they built :D

    Tavleen Singh is as right wing as they come, and she asked people for translations, did not go by the media. What is nasty for BJP-loving Tavleen is definitely nasty for me.

    Vikas has given me a philosophical position there on the Sohrabuddin case. Now we are talking. But Vikas, generally what is going in this blog is not a philosophical discussion… you can take a philosophical position in a right wing blog which is pro-Modi, but a philosophical position against it is met with hooting and jeering. :D All you have to do is read with the comments. I am always for philosophical stuff over beer.

  63. prashant says:

    Matt
    Its Better to be Logical then Philosophical…
    On your comments just LAGE rAHO……

  64. Reason says:

    Archee – arun sourie screws the establishment media on its coverage of nuclear deal in this article – http://www.indianexpress.com/story/248747._.html
    if you haven’t seen it already…

  65. D Kumar says:

    >> [Mutt]Go to Kerala and talk to people, you wil find 90 % of Hindus against Modi (sure I havent done a survey, so don’t hold me to that number please – but you get the idea)

    If you plan to do a survey at any time, count me please. I am a Hindu, from Kerala. There are thousands of others, like me, who will speak in favour of Narendramodi, for various reasons.

    >> [social]the Keralites, 90% of whom don’t understand Hindi whereas Modi doesn’t speak Mallu, not sure they would indulge their curiosity even at the expense of understanding what he’s speaking about. Who would appear to be a bigger idiot when such curious fella brags that he ‘was there though he understood no word of it’ untill it appeared in the newspaper the next day?

    Modi simply attracted thousands in Kerala to hear his speech. It appears that this photo was taken from the middle of the crowd.

    And, about what appeared in the news papers the next day:- The local media, mostly controlled by the marxists, have never said anything true, about BJP or any of its leaders. They said the speech was full of “communal remarks” aimed at inciting tension! The media persons would never have thought about the IT age and guessed that the original speech would be made available in the internet.

  66. prashant says:

    Matt Ko Mirchi Lagi….
    Dear ask ur Journalist friend to go to Nandigram where Mass Grave of Bodies recovered..
    You want to hang Modi bcoz he said Sohrabuddin a terrorist and desreve that…
    But happy to be in BED with Buddhadeb who openly said “They were paid back in their own coin”
    AND who were they…..innocent Muslim Childrens/Womens etc.
    NDTV is talking of Adivasi in Gujjarat as there is NO bus BUT silent on Stripping Adivasi Women in public by Congress ruled Assam.

  67. Matt says:

    D Kumar, all the BJP supporters voted commie in the last elections! :D

  68. prashant says:

    Right….and Congress Secular Minister V.Ravi went to RSS for support.
    In fact today Congress is ruled by Ex-Communal
    Madhu KODA EX-RSS presently CM-jharkhand
    Kamat-Ex-RSS presently Goa CM
    vAGHELA-eX-rss presently Minister
    Sanjay Nirupam ec etc

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